On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 12:59:20 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
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> This guy, Peter Wegner, that pt referred to indirectly. 
> http://www.cse.uconn.edu/~dgoldin/papers/strong-cct.pdf  His point is 
> that human consciousness is an interactive program that receives arbitrary 
> and unknown inputs from the environment and is modified by those inputs.  
> He calls this model a PTM, Persistent Turing Machine, because it keeps a 
> memory and doesn't overwrite it.  Of course you can say that whatever the 
> environmental input is, it can be included in the TM code, but then it is 
> potentially inifinite.
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> Brent
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This is the paper I cited (the pdf link above):

*The Interactive Nature of Computing: Refuting the Strong Church-Turing 
Thesis*
Dina Goldin, Peter Wegner (Brown University) 

I knew Peter Wegner [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Wegner ] in the 
1970s. Very interesting, dynamic guy. (I corresponded with his student Dina 
briefly after his death.)

I see computing (I think like he did), as well as mathematics, as an 
*experimental, 
empirical endeavor*, without any preordained "theoretical" restrictions (as 
like from a* religious catechism*).

@philipthrift

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