On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 5:50 PM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 10 May 2019, at 15:16, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 8:51 PM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> That is impossible. The first person plural is when two persons enter the >> annihilation box. They will share the indeterminacy, but that indeterminacy >> is still 1p. The “3p” see only two guys being duplicated. >> > > In your duplication experiments, but not in QM; no one 'sees' the quantum > superposition continuing after a measurement has been made. > > > Which duplication experiments. The one is step 3, or the one in step > seven? The whole point is that the second one should give the entanglement, > and that is why I study the modes of self-reference corresponding to it, > and there, we do find a quantum formalism. > I am talking about person duplication as in step 3. There is no other form of duplication involved. Step 7 introduces the dovetailer, with the possibility of multiple computational threads passing through the same conscious state. But that is not duplication -- it is just separate persons having the same thoughts by chance. Nothing to do with entanglement in either case. You do not find the quantum formalism anywhere. > >> The mechanist definition of the first person plural correspond to the >> quantum notion of entanglement, or what I describe often as the contagion >> of superposition, due to the linearity of the tensor product. >> > > That is totally meaningless; your 1pp has nothing to do with entanglement. > > > If you prove this, and assuming QM correct, you refute Mechanism (modulo a > logical possible malevolent “bostromian” simulation). > OK, then Mechanism is falsified. Because you have not shown that quantum entanglement arises from personal duplication. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLRvK%3DUr68%2BZw-6Sk0FsvCbqK-JyJ22yLdHz_8hEpfEFvQ%40mail.gmail.com.
