Relax! There is no "matter". "Matter" is just an idea in consciousness. So 
yeah, final verdict: "cybernatic hocus-bogus" is just a crackpot idea.

On Sunday, 5 May 2019 16:25:26 UTC+3, Terren Suydam wrote:
>
> You keep trotting out the term "cybernetic delusion" as if it's a problem. 
> But it's just an assumption I make, that consciousness is identified with 
> cybernetic dynamics. I'm exploring the consequences of that idea, which are 
> compelling IMO.
>
> You or anyone else can feel free to adopt or not adopt that assumption. 
> But it's not a delusion. Calling it that suggests there's a more correct 
> way to view consciousness. But you haven't been clear about what that is, 
> vacillating between "only certain kinds of matter can be conscious" and 
> "all matter is conscious". If you adopt panpsychism, you fall prey to the 
> cybernetic delusion yourself. And when you don't, *you fail to explain 
> what privileges certain kinds of matter over others*. It seems pretty 
> clear to me that there's no principled way to do that... any explanation of 
> why brains can be conscious but not computers starts to sound suspiciously 
> like "spirit" and "soul", in the sense that you're invoking some property 
> of matter that cannot be detected.
>
>

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