Relax! There is no "matter". "Matter" is just an idea in consciousness. So yeah, final verdict: "cybernatic hocus-bogus" is just a crackpot idea.
On Sunday, 5 May 2019 16:25:26 UTC+3, Terren Suydam wrote: > > You keep trotting out the term "cybernetic delusion" as if it's a problem. > But it's just an assumption I make, that consciousness is identified with > cybernetic dynamics. I'm exploring the consequences of that idea, which are > compelling IMO. > > You or anyone else can feel free to adopt or not adopt that assumption. > But it's not a delusion. Calling it that suggests there's a more correct > way to view consciousness. But you haven't been clear about what that is, > vacillating between "only certain kinds of matter can be conscious" and > "all matter is conscious". If you adopt panpsychism, you fall prey to the > cybernetic delusion yourself. And when you don't, *you fail to explain > what privileges certain kinds of matter over others*. It seems pretty > clear to me that there's no principled way to do that... any explanation of > why brains can be conscious but not computers starts to sound suspiciously > like "spirit" and "soul", in the sense that you're invoking some property > of matter that cannot be detected. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

