> On 11 May 2019, at 00:30, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote: > > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 12:24:56PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> Wittgenstein is sum up with his “what we cannot talk about should not be >> talked >> about”, but that is self-defeating (What are you talking about Mr >> Wittgenstein?). >> > > Only if he couldn't talk about what he is talking about. But it seems > like he could, so perhaps therefore he thought he should?
But then he talk about what he is saying that he can’t talk about, contradicting himself. Lao-Ze was closer to the “Gödelian solution”. He sais only “the wise stay mute, the fool talk”, by which he meant, if X is wise X stays mute. He does not say that he is wise. You can only deduce “If I am wise I should stay mute”. It is closer to the second incompleteness theorem: <> t -> ~ [] <> t. (If I iam consistent then I cannot assert my consistency). Bruno > > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Senior Research Fellow hpco...@hpcoders.com.au > Economics, Kingston University http://www.hpcoders.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/20190510223048.GA3946%40zen. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/75A9CD9A-8DA3-47C4-99E0-CA94565F82C5%40ulb.ac.be.