> On 31 May 2019, at 20:40, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/31/2019 12:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> 
>>> On 30 May 2019, at 18:58, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:johnkcl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 3:12 AM Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be 
>>> <mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> >????????????????????
>>> 
>>>       !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>> 
>>> > But science has not found any solution here.
>>> 
>>> It's true Science has not found a solution to every problem, but theology 
>>> not found a solution to ANY problem.
>> 
>> Theology has asked all problems which led to science.
> 
> Nonsense.  The earliest known science was from the school of Thales of 
> Miletus.  Thales rejected all explanation in terms of spirits, demons, and 
> gods.  This was already contrary to the theology of the time.

Contrary to popular religion and myth, but that is what Plato and especially 
the followers will “cure”, even “Aristotle”. That is the origin of science, 
including for a millenium theology. 

Bruno



> 
> Brent
> 
>> You are still confusing theology (the greek science from which both math and 
>> physics, and mathematical logic, are born) and the rigid pseudo-theology of 
>> the institutionalised religion who have created a fairy tale theology (the 
>> opium of the people) to steal our money and to control us.
>> You are helping the charlatan by spreading their lies. By definition, God 
>> exists (because its original definition is what is real), the debate is on 
>> the nature of God. Is it a thing like the tao, or like a physical universe, 
>> or is it a mathematical structure, or a person, or something else, etc.
>> 
>> People who claim that God does not exist are those taking their “god” (in 
>> that general sense) for granted? Usually they take some primitively physical 
>> reality as granted, but, as I have explained this makes non sense once we 
>> assume digital mechanism.
>> 
>> Bruno
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> > Why atheists are so “religious” in metaphysics still astonishes me.
>>> 
>>> Why you think that lame insult will still be efective even after you've 
>>> repeated it verbatim 6.02*10^23 times over the last decade astonishes me.
>>> 
>>> John K Clark
>>> 
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