On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 9:27:22 AM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
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> On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 8:07:49 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote:
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>> If *everything is matter* (against the idea that it's an illusion) then 
>> matter doesn't have its origin in anything.  
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>> People who say there is matter and something else have to say exactly 
>> what that immaterial "something else" is. There seems to be little 
>> "substance" to the claim that there is something else that's not matter.
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>> @philipthrift
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> There is energy that by E = mc^2 has an equivalence to mass. However, the 
> mass content of a particle or object is derived. The mass-gap of YM gauge 
> fields such as QCD and the role of the Higgs condensate in effect derives 
> the mass of particles at low energy. This is established physics.
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> LC 
>


There is matter that has mass. There is matter that *has no mass*: Massless 
matter.

e.g.  *massless matter fermions*

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/349/1/012001/pdf

cf.
https://www.symmetrymagazine.org/article/massless-particles-cant-be-stopped
 
@philipthrift

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