Le jeu. 28 nov. 2019 à 15:50, John Clark <[email protected]> a écrit :
> > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 8:14 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Then what one and only one city do "you" personally feel to be in? >> >> > > > *In the third person view on the first person view, you can say *[...] >> > > What about the first person view of the third person view of the first > person view? And what about the third person view of the first person > view of the third person view of the first person view? And what about.... > > >> If you can not clearly answer that question, >> >> >> *> The clear answer is the prediction I have made in Helsinki: with >> certainty, I will * [...] >> > > By casually throwing in the personal pronoun "I" in a thought experiment > that contains a "I" duplicating machine you have already demonstrated you > are unable to clearly answer the question. > > > [...]* feel to be in only one city, but I cannot predict which one >> among Washington and Moscow.* >> > > *Forget prediction!!* Even *AFTER* the experiment is long over you *STILL* > can not answer the question "what city did you turn out to see?" > Wait... what ? Sure you can, if you are the one who ended up in moscow... you answer moscow and write it in the diary... if you're the one who end up in washington, you answer washington. Easy. > and the reason you can't answer it is because it contains the personal > pronoun "you"; and if personal pronoun duplicating machines are involved > that means it is not a question at all, it's just gibberish with a question > mark at the end. > > If you can't even clearly say what happened yesterday then you can't have > had been expected to make a clear prediction on the day before yesterday > about what would happen the next day. > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv14gKgKuPGZzbuGnNJX282pB2x-f-qzXr%3DWXk67eZZNfg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv14gKgKuPGZzbuGnNJX282pB2x-f-qzXr%3DWXk67eZZNfg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAMW2kApDU1PBAdbxrnUaAouUrJjPGnzgidB_%2Bku3%2Bnqf2SEzVw%40mail.gmail.com.
