On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 6:31 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>what did the correct answer to the question asked the day before > yesterday in Helsinki turn out to be? What one and only one city did "you" > end up seeing yesterday, was it Washington or Moscow? > > *> Almost. * > Almost my ass, that's all that's going on and it's pretty damn banal. *> Mechanism predicts* [...] > Translation from the original Brunospeak: A very silly theory predicts. > *> that you will see only one city,* > And that very silly theory can not say who that shadowy mysterious person called Mr.You is, nor can it say what the correct answer to a obvious question turned out to be, "what one and only one city did Mr.You end up seeing??". It can't say what the correct answer was *EVEN AFTER* the "experiment" is long over. And that means it was not an experiment at all, and it also shows that a question mark does not possess magical powers, it shows that no punctuation mark can turn gibberish into a question, not even if is placed at the very end. > * > What you cannot predict in Helsinki is the particular city you will > feel to end in.* > It can not be pre-dicted and it can not be post-dicted either because Bruno Marchal does not know what "it" is, or know what exactly the question was, or know who the hell Mr. You is. > *The clear answer is the prediction I have made in Helsinki: with > certainty, I will* [...] > By casually throwing in the personal pronoun "I" in a thought experiment that contains a "I" duplicating machine Bruno has already demonstrated that Bruno is unable to clearly ask the question much less answer it. > *You have claim this without ever saying what is unclear,* WHAT THE HELL?! For over 5 years I have been asking the same question, the most recent time was just a few days ago in the very post you're responding to! I asked and I quote "what did the correct answer to the question asked the day before yesterday in Helsinki turn out to be? What one and only one city did "you" end up seeing yesterday, was it Washington or Moscow?". You claim to have derived all sorts of cosmic significant things from the fact that BEFORE the event it can not be predicted what some mysterious person named Mr. You will see, but EVEN AFTER the event nobody knows anything more than what was known BEFORE the event. So the outcome of the "experiment" has produced precisely ZERO bits of new information because everybody already know the man who saw Moscow would become the Moscow Man and the man who say Washington would become the Washington Man. > > [...] feel to be in only one city, but I cannot predict which one among > Washington and Moscow. > Forget prediction!! *EVEN AFTER *the experiment is long over you *STILL* can not answer the question "what one and only one city did you turn out to see, Washington or Moscow?" and the reason you can't answer it is because it contains the personal pronoun "you"; and if personal pronoun duplicating machines are involved that means it is not a question at all, it's just gibberish with a question mark at the end. If you can't even clearly say what happened yesterday then you can't have had been expected to make a clear prediction on the day before yesterday about what would happen the next day. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1sd67WE2wFJuy8TDVhe0mRx_RTyVsVfe%2BCLO6SLpW9gw%40mail.gmail.com.
