On 2/26/2020 4:54 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 1:36:49 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:



    On 2/26/2020 2:48 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
    >>   Being sure of that sentence is true, "Dr Watson was a friend of
    >> Sherlock Holmes." doesn't mean the things named in the sentence
    exist.
    >
    > It certainly means that Watson and Homes exist, in some sense. The
    > question is “is that sense interesting with respect to our goal of
    > explaining "everything” (matter and consciousness) in a coherent
    way?

    They exist in exactly the same way arithmetic and Turing machines
    exist.

    Brent


Are the integers, and by extension arithmetic, fictitious? AG

I wouldn't say necessarily say "fictitous".  They are abstractions, like "red".  They are descriptive of sets of things.

Brent

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