On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 11:02 AM John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 7:47 AM spudboy100 via Everything List <
> everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> * > 3 and 4 are clever Language Machines.*
>
>
> You can input nothing but a photograph into a modern "Language Machine"
> (by "modern" I mean something that has been developed in the last couple of
> months) and ask it what is in the photograph and it will be able to tell
> you, or ask it what will likely happen next to the object in the photo
> and it will give you a good answer. It can read and understand graphs and
> charts and if you show it a drawing from a high school geometry textbook
> full of intersecting lines circles squares and triangles and ask it to find
> the area of the second largest triangle in the upper left quadrant it will
> be able to do so. And if you ask what's humorous about the photograph it
> will be able to explain the joke to you. And it works the other way too, if
> you ask it to paint a picture of something, even something that doesn't
> exist, it will be able to provide an original painting of it that's far
> better than anything I could dream of painting.  How on earth can something
> that is just a "Language Machine" do amy of that?
>
> *> To the claim that via magic, a consciousness arises in silicon or
>> gallium arsenide seems a tall order.*
>
>
> It's no more magical than the claim that consciousness arises from 3
> pounds of gray goo made of carbon hydrogen and oxygen. Are you claiming
> that carbon hydrogen and oxygen are sacred but silicon gallium and arsenic
> are not? And besides, to hell with consciousness! If computers are not
> conscious then that's their problem not mine; it won't affect me one way or
> the other if computers are conscious or not, and I could say the same thing
> about your alleged consciousness.  I'm far FAR more interested in if
> computers are intelligent or not because that most certainly does affect
> me.
>


It might affect you. Do you plan to freeze your brain? Do you have a clause
to only resuscitate to biological substrates?

Jason


>
> *> The question offered up 6 weeks ago was how does the similarity to
>> animal brains arise from a Server Farm? *
>>
>
> Because both animal brains and server farms process information
> intelligently.
>
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