On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 11:02 AM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 7:47 AM spudboy100 via Everything List < > [email protected]> wrote: > > * > 3 and 4 are clever Language Machines.* > > > You can input nothing but a photograph into a modern "Language Machine" > (by "modern" I mean something that has been developed in the last couple of > months) and ask it what is in the photograph and it will be able to tell > you, or ask it what will likely happen next to the object in the photo > and it will give you a good answer. It can read and understand graphs and > charts and if you show it a drawing from a high school geometry textbook > full of intersecting lines circles squares and triangles and ask it to find > the area of the second largest triangle in the upper left quadrant it will > be able to do so. And if you ask what's humorous about the photograph it > will be able to explain the joke to you. And it works the other way too, if > you ask it to paint a picture of something, even something that doesn't > exist, it will be able to provide an original painting of it that's far > better than anything I could dream of painting. How on earth can something > that is just a "Language Machine" do amy of that? > > *> To the claim that via magic, a consciousness arises in silicon or >> gallium arsenide seems a tall order.* > > > It's no more magical than the claim that consciousness arises from 3 > pounds of gray goo made of carbon hydrogen and oxygen. Are you claiming > that carbon hydrogen and oxygen are sacred but silicon gallium and arsenic > are not? And besides, to hell with consciousness! If computers are not > conscious then that's their problem not mine; it won't affect me one way or > the other if computers are conscious or not, and I could say the same thing > about your alleged consciousness. I'm far FAR more interested in if > computers are intelligent or not because that most certainly does affect > me. > It might affect you. Do you plan to freeze your brain? Do you have a clause to only resuscitate to biological substrates? Jason > > *> The question offered up 6 weeks ago was how does the similarity to >> animal brains arise from a Server Farm? * >> > > Because both animal brains and server farms process information > intelligently. > > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > pii > > >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2esT1gmprF-twkFyvdXESoi1asEk6L6mi5Dxmm9_7sGw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2esT1gmprF-twkFyvdXESoi1asEk6L6mi5Dxmm9_7sGw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUgYHVAioJ0kA3fr2gVq8iqzjs8vsPyQgaucPr8GuTkdig%40mail.gmail.com.

