On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 1:47 PM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 11:01 AM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > *> It might affect you. * > > > I don't think so, but because it involves consciousness I'll never be able > to prove it, i'll never be able to prove anything about consciousness. But > I'm confident that if something acts just like me then it will be me. > > *> Do you plan to freeze your brain?* > > > Yes, I've already paid the $80,000 bill to do so. > > > *Do you have a clause to only resuscitate to biological substrates?* > > > No, and it would not make any difference even if I did because it would > not be followed. I'm not at all sure cryonics will work at all because I'm > not sure my brain really will remain at liquid nitrogen temperatures > until the singularity, and even if it is I'm not at all sure anybody will > think I'm worth reviving, but I think my chances are infinitely better than > if my brain is burned up in a furnace or eaten by worms. If I am lucky > enough to be brought back I'm certain it will be as an upload, nobody will > want somebody as stupid as me (relative to the average citizen living at > that time) wasting resources in the physical world. > In that case the question of machine consciousness is not entirely irrelevant to you. Jason > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > 9cv > > yft > > pii > > > > > > > > > > > >> You can input nothing but a photograph into a modern "Language Machine" >> (by "modern" I mean something that has been developed in the last couple of >> months) and ask it what is in the photograph and it will be able to tell >> you, or ask it what will likely happen next to the object in the photo >> and it will give you a good answer. It can read and understand graphs and >> charts and if you show it a drawing from a high school geometry textbook >> full of intersecting lines circles squares and triangles and ask it to find >> the area of the second largest triangle in the upper left quadrant it will >> be able to do so. And if you ask what's humorous about the photograph it >> will be able to explain the joke to you. And it works the other way too, if >> you ask it to paint a picture of something, even something that doesn't >> exist, it will be able to provide an original painting of it that's far >> better than anything I could dream of painting. How on earth can something >> that is just a "Language Machine" do amy of that? >> >> *> To the claim that via magic, a consciousness arises in silicon or >>> gallium arsenide seems a tall order.* >> >> >> It's no more magical than the claim that consciousness arises from 3 >> pounds of gray goo made of carbon hydrogen and oxygen. Are you claiming >> that carbon hydrogen and oxygen are sacred but silicon gallium and arsenic >> are not? And besides, to hell with consciousness! If computers are not >> conscious then that's their problem not mine; it won't affect me one way or >> the other if computers are conscious or not, and I could say the same thing >> about your alleged consciousness. I'm far FAR more interested in if >> computers are intelligent or not because that most certainly does affect >> me. >> >> >> *> The question offered up 6 weeks ago was how does the similarity to >>> animal brains arise from a Server Farm? * >>> >> >> Because both animal brains and server farms process information >> intelligently. >> >> >> >> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0kVLqjWXqAOsLjAkXjhATQ%2BBdJMtR-bo%2BRe1apSpnJ1g%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0kVLqjWXqAOsLjAkXjhATQ%2BBdJMtR-bo%2BRe1apSpnJ1g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUiiunHyEfcr7Lzn3%2BshbvaHbynvZbjQyKsP5hmdnNS2ZQ%40mail.gmail.com.
