All I am saying is what are the dynamics of creating a human level mind in a server farm??? You do know that we have switched identities with this argument with you being the cybernetic believer and me being the religious atheist? I am good if somebody arrives at an explanation? The Mechanics Plese. I bet I can get a neuroscientist to explain how meat and bone become self aware. We need the same for Le Machine! Stumbled upon this Tweet that applies perhaps to yourself? A woman in the Philippines spent four years praying to a green "Buddha" figure she purchased from a store, until one day a friend pointed out the Buddha figure she'd been praying to was actually Shrek. The damned thing is, it actually works!
George Carlin: I believe in God, but I pray to the Sun. "“I've begun worshipping the sun for a number of reasons. First of all, unlike some other gods I could mention, I can see the sun. It's there for me every day. And the things it brings me are quite apparent all the time: heat, light, food, and a lovely day. -----Original Message----- From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Cc: te...@telmomenezes.net <te...@telmomenezes.net> Sent: Wed, Mar 15, 2023 11:01 am Subject: Re: The connectome and uploading On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 7:47 AM spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > 3 and 4 are clever Language Machines. You can input nothing but a photograph into a modern "Language Machine" (by "modern" I mean something that has been developed in the last couple of months) and ask it what is in the photograph and it will be able to tell you, or ask it what will likely happen next to the object in the photo and it will give you a good answer. It can read and understand graphs and charts and if you show it a drawing from a high school geometry textbook full of intersecting lines circles squares and triangles and ask it to find the area of the second largest triangle in the upper left quadrant it will be able to do so. And if you ask what's humorous about the photograph it will be able to explain the joke to you. And it works the other way too, if you ask it to paint a picture of something, even something that doesn't exist, it will be able to provide an original painting of it that's far better than anything I could dream of painting. How on earth can something that is just a "Language Machine" do amy of that? > To the claim that via magic, a consciousness arises in silicon or gallium > arsenide seems a tall order. It's no more magical than the claim that consciousness arises from 3 pounds of gray goo made of carbon hydrogen and oxygen. Are you claiming that carbon hydrogen and oxygen are sacred but silicon gallium and arsenic are not? And besides, to hell with consciousness! If computers are not conscious then that's their problem not mine; it won't affect me one way or the other if computers are conscious or not, and I could say the same thing about your alleged consciousness. I'm far FAR more interested in if computers are intelligent or not because that most certainly does affect me. > The question offered up 6 weeks ago was how does the similarity to animal > brains arise from a Server Farm? Because both animal brains and server farms process information intelligently. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis pii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2esT1gmprF-twkFyvdXESoi1asEk6L6mi5Dxmm9_7sGw%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/967610060.357080.1678908421439%40mail.yahoo.com.
