JC is theologically correct.
Why? Because any resurrection will be quantum.
The information about all things remains in the universe. How do I surmise this?
Physicist, Guilio Prisco & Science Writer, George Musser saw this. Musser's 
2019 article is called Gravit's Residue.Musser-Back in the 1960s, Hermann 
Bondi, A. W. Kenneth Metzner, M. G. J. van der Burg and Rainer Sachs made the 
truly remarkable discovery that space–time far away from any matter has an 
infinite collection of symmetries known as supertranslations…”
A supertranslation, Strominger says (as reported by Musser), adds soft 
particles to spacetime.

“This realisation, in turn, provides a clearer picture of how a seemingly empty 
spacetime that is far from any gravitating bodies can retain a residue of 
gravity’s effects. Plop a soft particle into a vacuum and, though it adds no 
energy, it does contribute its angular momentum and other properties, thereby 
bumping the vacuum to a new version of itself. Strominger realised that if the 
vacuum can assume multiple forms, it will retain an almost homeopathic imprint 
of what passes through it.”

A project like no other, I agree! But our Machine/Human descendants will have 
lots of time to gather up the data. 
Bolonkin, the inventor, also holds with the quantum rez. 


Me: So if you're a Christian and you have met favor in The Lords' Eyes, you 
come back electronical.If Samy pleases Allah, bang! Up to Janah he goes!
Is this the only way this could happen? It's the most currently, scientific, 
but this cannot be the last word in astronomy, physics, and computer science.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com>
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Cc: te...@telmomenezes.net <te...@telmomenezes.net>
Sent: Wed, Mar 15, 2023 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: The connectome and uploading

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 11:01 AM John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It might affect you. 

I don't think so, but because it involves consciousness I'll never be able to 
prove it, i'll never be able to prove anything about consciousness. But I'm 
confident that if something acts just like me then it will be me.  

> Do you plan to freeze your brain?

Yes, I've already paid the $80,000 bill to do so. 

 > Do you have a clause to only resuscitate to biological substrates?

No, and it would not make any difference even if I did because it would not be 
followed. I'm not at all sure cryonics will work at all because I'm not sure my 
brain really will remain at liquid nitrogen temperatures until the singularity, 
and even if it is I'm not at all sure anybody will think I'm worth reviving, 
but I think my chances are infinitely better than if my brain is burned up in a 
furnace or eaten by worms. If I am lucky enough to be brought back I'm certain 
it will be as an upload, nobody will want somebody as stupid as me (relative to 
the average citizen living at that time) wasting resources in the physical 
John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis


You can input nothing but a photograph into a modern "Language Machine" (by 
"modern" I mean something that has been developed in the last couple of months) 
and ask it what is in the photograph and it will be able to tell you, or ask it 
what will likely happen next to the object in the photo and it will give you a 
good answer. It can read and understand graphs and charts and if you show it a 
drawing from a high school geometry textbook full of intersecting lines circles 
squares and triangles and ask it to find the area of the second largest 
triangle in the upper left quadrant it will be able to do so. And if you ask 
what's humorous about the photograph it will be able to explain the joke to 
you. And it works the other way too, if you ask it to paint a picture of 
something, even something that doesn't exist, it will be able to provide an 
original painting of it that's far better than anything I could dream of 
painting.  How on earth can something that is just a "Language Machine" do amy 
of that?

> To the claim that via magic, a consciousness arises in silicon or gallium 
> arsenide seems a tall order.

It's no more magical than the claim that consciousness arises from 3 pounds of 
gray goo made of carbon hydrogen and oxygen. Are you claiming that carbon 
hydrogen and oxygen are sacred but silicon gallium and arsenic are not? And 
besides, to hell with consciousness! If computers are not conscious then that's 
their problem not mine; it won't affect me one way or the other if computers 
are conscious or not, and I could say the same thing about your alleged 
consciousness.  I'm far FAR more interested in if computers are intelligent or 
not because that most certainly does affect me. 

> The question offered up 6 weeks ago was how does the similarity to animal 
> brains arise from a Server Farm? 

Because both animal brains and server farms process information intelligently. 

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