On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 2:12 PM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:
*>Consciousness is a prerequisite of intelligence.* > I think you've got that backwards, intelligence is a prerequisite of consciousness. And the possibility of intelligent ACTIONS is a prerequisite for Darwinian natural selection to have evolved it. > *> One can be conscious without being intelligent,* > Sure. The Turing Test is not perfect, it has a lot of flaws, but it's all we've got. If something passes the Turing Test then it's intelligent and conscious, but if it fails the test then it may or may not be intelligent and or conscious. *You need to have perceptions (of the environment, or the current > situation) in order to act intelligently. * For intelligence to have evolved, and we know for a fact that it has, you not only need to be able to perceive the environment you also need to be able to manipulate it. That's why zebras didn't evolve great intelligence, they have no hands, so a brilliant zebra wouldn't have a great advantage over a dumb zebra, in fact he'd probably be at a disadvantage because a big brain is a great energy hog. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> 339 3b4 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2Zjakk5szeMFfZu%3DCYp3FzopZsOOMXW%2Bx7qPH9_pujfg%40mail.gmail.com.

