>>>>with Boo's condition he wouldn't want him around any longer than
Hi Lynne, I took the comment to mean they wouldn't want to stress BooBoo
out any more than necessary, as stress depletes their already depleted
immune system and vet clinic is always stressful. I hope that's what
they meant anyway!
He sounds a real sweetie!


[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: fixing a leukemia kitty

I called the vet today and asked that they tell me the absolute best
time to bring him in so he wouldn't have to wait at all so he's
scheduled first at 8:15.  I asked if I could take him home as soon as he
came around and the assistant said Dr. Gill would decide that tomorrow
and probably with Boo's condition he wouldn't want him around any longer
than possible.  I said "hey, wait a minute here, you don't discriminate
against cats with this disease do you, like he's gonna die anyway so if
it's now what's the difference" She said, oh no, we think it's wonderful
that you have taken this challenge on.  I'm supposed to be at work
tomorrow for 9 but I fully intend to stay until I know he's out of the
woods.  The pharmacy across the hall can tell anyone waiting outside the
office I'll be late if need be.  If I had my way I'd be there in the
operating room.  I don't want to make a nuissance of myself but I want
to know what's going on too.  I also want a CBC done at the time just to
get an idea of what his blood is like.  My husband and I love this
little guy so much.  When I go to bed, earlier than Bob, to watch some
news, BooBoo follows me upstairs and hops on the bed with his little
paws hanging over the side and he watches with me.  We both like Hillary
Clinton by the way.  When she's on I swear he is totally intrigued.  He
just stares at the TV.

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Caroline Kaufmann <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
        To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
        Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:37 PM
        Subject: RE: fixing a leukemia kitty

        If he's healthy now, then do it.  Feleuk cats are prone to
cancers- a lot of times, that is what gets them in the end, particularly
lymphoscarcoma.  Lymphosarcoma is the most common form of cancer in cats
and dogs- feleuk or otherwise.  But the incidence in Felv+ cats is even
higher.  This is what my cat Monkee came down with (found a lump on his
leg).  If neutering would further reduce his risk of cancer, then it's
worth the small risk of putting him under but if he is indeed Feleuk
positive, then he has double the chances of getting some time of cancer.
And it's true that a neuter is a much simpler operation than a spay and
there's basically no recovery issues- assuming there are no
complications (unlike the frequent popped stitches that come with
spaying).  The group I volunteer for is currently working it's way
through fixing an entire colony of Felv+ feral cats and there haven't
been any problems.  And they are feral-- which I should think the stress
of the catching, surgery, immediate release, must be even worse for
them, so if they can handle it, your boy who's asymptomatic, healthy now
that he's with you, and getting love and affection, will be fine.


                From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
                Subject: Re: fixing a leukemia kitty
                Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:33:58 -0600
                Lynne, my friend has all her feline leukemia kitties
altered. I think one, in 20 years, had a problem.
                At least for a female, our vet believes the stress of
the regular heat cycle would be greater than that of the spay. And you
are right that an unneutered male is at risk of certain cancers...and
he's already <potentially> immune compromised. 
                We had Isabella scheduled for her spay 2 or 3 times and
each time she had a temp so we didn't do it. When she got so bad that we
needed an ultrasound, the vet discovered she had hemaclips or something
like that which meant she was already spayed. Boy were we relieved that
we had not put her under and had cut open unnecessarily! (The vet had
shaved her when we first rescued her and could not find a spay scar). 
                I would not be as worried about a neuter as a spay ~ if
Boo is otherwise in good health and esp since he's not going to be
vaccinated now. We did not vaccinate Isabella. I have watched a neuter
being done. It takes no time at all. He won't be under long. I would ask
whether they do a reversal and if the vet thinks this is a good idea for
him.Bottom line for me ~ if the vet thinks it's ok to do the alter, I
would be inclined to do it. Afterall, I am sure he doesn't want a poor

                        ----- Original Message ----- 
                        From: Lynne <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
                        To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
                        Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:54 PM
                        Subject: Re: fixing a leukemia kitty
                        Dorothy, believe me, this is weighing heavy on
my mind.  He's scheduled to go in this Friday.  The vet assured me he
was healthy and up to it.  If it were a spaying I probably would
definitely be worried since I think it is a more complicated surgery.  I
still have tomorrow to reconsider.  I would definitely be happier if his
urine were not so strong smelling and I have read that neutered cats can
be healthier, ie less likely to develop prostate or other cancers so I'm
really torn as to which way to go.  I do not want him to be wanting to
go out.  The first night we had him the little buggar went upstairs and
peed in an unoccupied bedroom and it took two days to clean, air the
place and get the smell out.  We had his litter box ready but he chose
to mark this room.  The door has since been closed and he faithfully
uses his litter box but once the breeding season comes, I don't know
what he'll do.  What do the rest of you think.  Should I hold off on
this surgery?  Boo is somewhere between 4 and 6 years old, kind of old
for neutering but I truly want what's best for him.
                        Thanks Dorothy for your input.

                                ----- Original Message ----- 
                                From: Dorothy Noble
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
                                To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
                                Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:36
                                Subject: fixing a leukemia kitty

                                I was reading Lynne's postings about her
new cat being neutered this weekend -
                                I just wanted to pass along a little ifo
I had received from a society in Missouri. 
                                I was looking to adopt a FeLV kitty (to
be a friend to my other FeLV) and I was inquiring about cats that they
had.  I asked if they would be spayed or neutered prior to adoption and
she emphatically said NO.  She said that if they were not already fixed,
they definitely do NOT recommend t hat type of surgery on a cat with
leukemia, due to their already fragile immune systems.  (I chose to wait
until I could find one who was already fixed because I definitely like
my cats to be altered.)
                                Just a little food for thought - I would
hate to have something happen to your friend during a surgery!

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