Hi Lance,

Thanks for all the info.  I'm familiar with LTCI but not as much with some of 
the others you mention.  I definitely plan to ask the internal med at Cornell 
to look into these.  We are definitely considering LTCI but the pred is the 
sticky part.  Neither one of us want to take him off of the pred for something 
that has no research backing up that it works.  She read all the research and 
had several others review it.  They all agreed the science sounds reasonable 
but there are just so many problems with the paper.  I have yet to read it 
myself but plan to.  That is probably the one option I'm leaning towards.  

I also heard Neupogen mentioned somewhere and plan to ask her about that one.


--- On Mon, 11/23/09, Lance <lini...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> From: Lance <lini...@fastmail.fm>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] WBC/RBC/platelet count decreasing
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 11:08 PM
> Hi Amy,
> I'm sorry to hear about Wolfie. I don't have most of my
> email handy, so
> I can't look back at what you've written. Have you tried
> Transfer
> Factor?
> What about Liquid DMG? These are affordable supplements,
> and they *seem*
> to have helped in the case of my FeLV+ girl, Ember. DMG
> especially 
> *seems* to have little possibility of any negative
> consequences. When
> I've seen wbc issues in Ember, I've *seemingly* reversed
> some losses
> with these supplements. Please note how I use the word
> *seem*. 
> Neupogen might be an option. It's something I'm keeping in
> mind, 
> but I don't know much about it, other than it helps with
> wbc generation. 
> I believe some folks have used ImmunoRegulin in similar
> situations to
> yours 
> and had good results. Maybe the archives will shed some
> light on that. 
> And I could be wrong, but I seem to remember Epogen helping
> in non-regen 
> anemia, though that makes absolutely no sense. Again, the
> archives will
> hopefully help.
> LTCI might help with wbc generation. I'm seeing lots of
> mention of it
> on the list, but I'm very leery of it. We FeLV+ caregivers
> are so eager
> for anything that might help, but the marketing Immulan has
> engaged in
> has been questionable. Of course, that doesn't mean that it
> doesn't
> help,
> but the company haven't done enough proper tests to provide
> real
> reassurance
> that their product works. It's good that we're getting
> anecdotal
> evidence
> on the list, but that only goes so far. 
> Finally, I wonder if Pet Tinic might not help the rbc that
> Wolfie is
> able
> to produce. It's really just nutrients and nothing terribly
> unusual...
> mainly iron, I think. 
> Obviously, when it comes to any of these options, please
> consult your
> vet.
> My hopes and prayers for Wolfie's health, and for your
> ability to find
> something that might help his blood counts.
> Lance
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:01 -0800, "Amy" <awilkin...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > I've posted before about my cat Wolfie.  He's 7
> years old and has been
> > losing weight for the past 4 years.  His HCT is
> also down (currently 25).
> >  We've treated for hemobart and retested and he's
> now negative (was
> > positive before).  He has started gaining weight
> and has put on a pound
> > but I'm sure the leukemia is in his bone marrow. 
> He's been tested and
> > has non-regenerative anemia.  He's been stable
> for a few months but his
> > WBC, RBC, and platelet counts are all gradually
> declining.  I was
> > expecting him to crash when I got the confirmation of
> non-regenerative
> > anemia but he's holding his own.  I was told he's
> probably making red
> > blood cells in his liver or spleen, just no longer in
> the bone marrow.  
> > 
> > Has anybody ever had luck with LTCI or any of the
> other things mentioned
> > once it has gotten to this point?  I've done all
> sorts of testing for
> > digestive issues, lymphoma, IBD, etc.  We have
> made a couple trips to
> > Cornell and decided to just keep him on pred and
> monitor trends for now. 
> > I keep hoping for some miracle but I know the
> prognosis is not good.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Amy  
> > 
> > 
> >       
> > 
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