I think that there may be some confusion about local vs. network 
folders/drives. Perhaps I read too much into Ken's responses from the Adobe 

In my case, all application executables are on my drive C and the data files 
are on drive E on the _same_ system. I.e., drive E is _not_ a network-mounted 
drive ... it is physically installed on my laptop.

For this "all local drives" arrangement, there should _never_ be any issue for 
any modern Windows application.

However, if the data files are on a network server, even if that folder/drive 
is "mounted" as a "local" drive letter in Windows, then I can see where 
incorrect permissions on that remote location can cause confusion and access 
issues. You _have_ to have write permission on that remote drive/folder for 

FWIW, I have used FrameMaker on a network without problems. I regularly back up 
my files onto a network server (into a folder where I have read/write access). 
Indeed, I just checked ... I don't have any difficulty opening those remote 
files, editing/saving, etc.

The point being that things on networks just have to be set up correctly, so an 
Adobe tech may want to _not_ recommend this for everybody. Regardless, I would 
not consider that as official Adobe policy.


-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan T Litchfield
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:04 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

Keep calm


Make Frames

I would have to say that the person Ken spoke to must be a tech-idiot, but that 
would not be the first I have spoken to at Adobe (re previous discussions on 
Adobe's appalling registration system and advice to me to reinstall the entire 
computer OS because Acrobat Pro's registration database was corrupted).

If it were true, then that must surely make FM the only application created 
since DOS was king that cannot handle networked or shared permissions.

I think, ignore the Adobe tech-idiot and proceed with what we know to be the 


On 14/02/13 8:49 AM, Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com wrote:
> 2013-02-13-03T19:50Z
> ?_YIKES_!
> If Ken was informed correctly, below - and I _really_ hope he was 
> _not_ - then that effectively rings the death knell of FrameMaker's 
> use by my employer.
> It was in only the last month that I got upgraded to FrameMaker 11, 
> but I'm happy to report that I haven't encountered this type of 
> problem.  To conform to _corporate_requirements_ we have FrameMaker 
> installed on our C:\ drives, but the files we produce and edit are on 
> a server, so we work with them across our local area network and, 
> sometimes, the wide-area network.
> Dov, if you see this, will you please confirm, modify, or refute the 
> information Ken posted below?
> ?Thanks!
> Dave Stamm
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> *From:*framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Syed 
> Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)
> *Sent:* 2013-02-13-Wednesday 14:24
> *To:* Fred Ridder; poshedly at bellsouth.net; robert at lauriston.com; 
> framers at lists.frameusers.com; techwr-l at techwr-l.com
> *Subject:* RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Poshedly <poshedly at bellsouth.net 
> <mailto:poshedly at bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>> I just learned from Adobe tech support (via phone call) that the 
>> permissions in FrameMaker 11.0 have been modified so that the data 
>> files should also be on the same hard drive where FM 11.0 is 
>> installed. Working across drives (FM here, data files there) is no longer an 
>> accepted practice -- at least not with FM11.
> Seriously? I can understand network-based locations causing issues, 
> but I have _/never/_ seen a problem where an executable (FrameMaker or
> otherwise!) is on one drive and the "data" files are on a separate 
> drive _/on the **same** system/_.
> In fact, I do this right now - my C drive is the usual location for 
> all executables (FrameMaker, Office, compilers, etc.) and my E drive 
> contains all my other files (including the books and files I work on).
> And, I do not have any problems with this setup whatsoever. I am 
> surprised that Adobe thinks that this would be a problem in any way! 
> If really accurate, this would be a strange, and completely 
> unacceptable, artificial constraint.
> Z
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