OK, I found some time to test today. I tested mem 1_10, 1_11, 1_11a and 1_12.
The garbled text was only in 1.11a. My editor recognises it as UTF-8 and when I run it, it shows the bad characters. When interpreting the text as CP858 it shows the
characters of Aitors screenshot.
1.12 (latest) is ok.
The FIXME: text is already in 1.10 (published in 2006-08-25) and 1.09a2 (published in 2005-11-17), and the characters seem to have been correct even at that time.
As I cannot speak spanish (I only know in about the characters, that es uses) someone should translate it.
Overlong text is a problem in all NLS files as it often leads to the result that there are ugly line breaks. The problem for the translator is that he/she never knows what is the max. of characters that he/she can write without such line breaks as it is always different. Some programmers wrote comments something like: max xx characters at this line. But this is not standard.
While checking some NLS commands I noticed that the line feed is not identical too. Some use CR-LF (DOS/Win), some use Unix LF, one time I have even seen Mac CR.
Interestingly FD seems to support CR-LF and LF even with edit, but CR does not work. Should we use a standard or fix this?
Some languages only offer UTF-8. Should someone change them to CPxx (e.g. 865 for NO)? I could try to do so but I do not like useless work (as I had with the kl files that were not overtaken).
Willi
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2023 at 12:55 PM
From: "Andrew Bird via Freedos-devel" <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
To: "Steve Nickolas" <usots...@buric.co>
Cc: "Andrew Bird" <a...@spheresystems.co.uk>, "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Minor problems FreeDOS 1.3 (Spanish translation)
From: "Andrew Bird via Freedos-devel" <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
To: "Steve Nickolas" <usots...@buric.co>
Cc: "Andrew Bird" <a...@spheresystems.co.uk>, "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Minor problems FreeDOS 1.3 (Spanish translation)
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 07:17:56 -0400 (EDT)
Steve Nickolas <usots...@buric.co> wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023, Andrew Bird via Freedos-devel wrote:
>
> > I think I can shorten the Spanish text, which fixes both the alignment
> > problem and the lack of a space. I'll send a PR but I'd be grateful if
> > somebody can check the text there as my Spanish is mostly beginner
> > level.
>
> es_ES in PC DOS 6.3: "Tamaño del mayor programa ejecutable"
> es_ES in MS-DOS 6.22: "Programa ejecutable más extenso"
>
> Don't know how useful that is to you, though.
>
> -uso.
Thanks, it's good to know that it is possible to have shorter text in Spanish. There are other languages that also have the problem in 'mem' so I think it's likely to be a program change that's required to solve all.
Andrew
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Steve Nickolas <usots...@buric.co> wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023, Andrew Bird via Freedos-devel wrote:
>
> > I think I can shorten the Spanish text, which fixes both the alignment
> > problem and the lack of a space. I'll send a PR but I'd be grateful if
> > somebody can check the text there as my Spanish is mostly beginner
> > level.
>
> es_ES in PC DOS 6.3: "Tamaño del mayor programa ejecutable"
> es_ES in MS-DOS 6.22: "Programa ejecutable más extenso"
>
> Don't know how useful that is to you, though.
>
> -uso.
Thanks, it's good to know that it is possible to have shorter text in Spanish. There are other languages that also have the problem in 'mem' so I think it's likely to be a program change that's required to solve all.
Andrew
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