> On Apr 8, 2023, at 11:11 AM, Wilhelm Spiegl <wilhelm.spi...@mail.com> wrote: > > I just checked spanish nls and if saw it correct, the spanish nls version at > shidel nls has a lot of english text inside, not only comments. so it will > have to be overworked completely. is the text at shidel nls the correct one?
Yes. The latest version is at https://github.com/shidel/fd-nls/blob/master/mem/nls/mem.es.UTF-8 <https://github.com/shidel/fd-nls/blob/master/mem/nls/mem.es.UTF-8> Looking at that file, there a bunch of “FIXME: to be translated” lines remaining. > I will try to check all german versions of nls asap as i noticed some reports > that are two weeks old, asap means, german easter is longer than others, from > friday till easter monday and I will see to find time. > > My personal main problem is that bug reports are sometimes at this forum, > sometimes at gitlab or anywhere else. And user problems are often overseen > over weeks. this is not user friendly. Personally, I consider issues posted to the Developer mailings list as “Not bug reports”. I think of it more of a pre-bug report. A place to say “Hey everyone. Look at this. Is it a bug or am I wrong somehow”. Then once the issue is discussed, it either get fixed or a bug report is then created elsewhere. There is only one official place for tracking FreeDOS specific bugs on projects that are not actively maintained. For those projects that are actively maintained elsewhere, there are links to the developers site and users are encouraged to report issues at that official site for that project. See http://freedos.org/bugs/ <http://freedos.org/bugs/> As for user reports that go unanswered for days, weeks or months at a time, not much can be done about it. That has been a problem for a very long time. It just requires more of the FreeDOS community to look at and answer them. > > willi :-) Jerome > > -- > Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit mail.com > <http://mail.com/> Mail gesendet. > Am 08.04.23, 12:23 schrieb Andrew Bird via Freedos-devel > <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>: > Hi, > > On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 10:51:38 +0100 > Andrew Bird via Freedos-devel <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 02:05:53 -0400 > > Jerome Shidel <jshi...@icloud.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > On Apr 6, 2023, at 5:44 PM, Andrew Bird via Freedos-devel > > > > <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Aitor, Hi Wilhelm, > > > > Can you check if the package in FreeDOS 1.3 has the current translation > > > > from fd-nls? The reason I updated in fd-nls was that the Spanish was > > > > garbled. At this time I also added the UTF-8 in the hope that that > > > > would be considered the master and the cp850/858 could be converted > > > > from it as necessary. > > > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > I just tested under T2303 (should be the same in T2304). > > > > > > Translation text looked fine. > > > > > > However, the line that says “Largest executable program size” is long in > > > Spanish and there is no spacing before the size… > > > > > > Tamaño de programa ejecutable más grande626K (640,944 bytes) > > > > > > Also, the columns for “Largest are upper memory block” do not align with > > > it. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > Jerome > > > > I think I can shorten the Spanish text, which fixes both the alignment > > problem and the lack of a space. I'll send a PR but I'd be grateful if > > somebody can check the text there as my Spanish is mostly beginner level. > > > > Andrew > > Actually the size/alignment problem seems to affect other translations, at > least FR, IT and ES: > > $ grep 2.10 mem/nls/mem.??.U* > mem/nls/mem.de.UTF-8:2.10:Größter freier UMB > mem/nls/mem.es.UTF-8:2.10:Bloque de memoria superior libre más grande > mem/nls/mem.fr.UTF-8:2.10:Le plus grand bloc de mémoire haute libre > mem/nls/mem.it.UTF-8:2.10:Dimensione massima di un blocco di memoria > superiore (UMB) > mem/nls/mem.sv.UTF-8:2.10:Största fria övre minnesblock > mem/nls/mem.tr.UTF-8:2.10:En büyük boş üst bellek bloku > > To me it looks like the mem program itself will need changing to allow for > the extra length strings. > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 22:05:16 +0200 > > > > Wilhelm Spiegl <wilhelm.spi...@mail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi Aitor, > > > >> I do not know who made the spanish translation, maybe Andrew Bird as I > > > >> just noticed on the site, it is only one year old, creating a cp xxx > > > >> and the unicode version was an idea of Berki, he started in about 3 > > > >> years ago with this. > > > >> I assume the translator started with Win cp 1252 or overtook it from > > > >> Google translate or something like this, overtook the cp of Google > > > >> translate and forgot to change to 858 first. this can happen in win or > > > >> linux as you handle with two cp and unicode. > > > >> > > > >> https://github.com/shidel/fd-nls/blob/master/mem/nls/mem.es.UTF-8 > > > >> <https://github.com/shidel/fd-nls/blob/master/mem/nls/mem.es.UTF-8> > > > >> > > > >> Could you please check the utf-8 version and tell me if it is okay? > > > >> Then I could try to fix this and maybe other commands. > > > >> Which characters are bad? Only T or others too? > > > >> One more question, you meant "grande 606K" or "grande 606 KB" or a > > > >> different version? in gr there is a space between value and KB too. > > > >> > > > >> Willi > > > >> -- > > > >> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit mail.com > > > >> Mail gesendet. > > > >> Am 06.04.23, 21:18 schrieb "Aitor Santamaría" <aitor...@gmail.com>: > > > >>> Hello, > > > >>> > > > >>> I've been trying FreeDOS 1.3, and found a couple of minor problems > > > >>> running it in Spanish: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> the non-standar-ASCII characters appear as preceded by a strange > > > >>> symbol for MEM, I wonder if they are really saved as 850/858 or are > > > >>> saved as Unicode or something else. > > > >>> > > > >>> Besides, I've always missed a space before the size of the largest > > > >>> executable > > > >>> "Tamaño de programa ejecutable más grande_606K" (the _ should be a > > > >>> blank but is not there). > > > >>> > > > >>> I assume these two have to do with the Spanish strings for MEM, > > > >>> should I fill in a bug report for that, or is anyone taking care of > > > >>> translations? > > > >>> > > > >>> I also have a suggestion, applying to Spanish and probably to other > > > >>> western European configurations: 850 is used as default codepage. I > > > >>> suggest changing to 858, which is the SAME except that it has the > > > >>> euro sign, that you can neatly see in the screenshot above. This > > > >>> would apply to any configuration where 850 is used as default > > > >>> codepage. > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks in advance, > > > >>> Aitor > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ Freedos-devel mailing > > > >>> list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > > > >>> <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Freedos-devel mailing list > > > > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > > > > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Freedos-devel mailing list > > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel> > _______________________________________________ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
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