On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:

> You may not consider it reliable, and Dennis may have some odd
> problem accessing it, but that website <http://ms-dos7.hit.bg>
> did give me, on 5-Dec-2013, a working 2-diskette copy of V7.10
> which I was able to "install" on my system (up to the point of
> writing IO.SYS and MS-DOS.SYS, which I did not do since I want
> to continue with V6.22 MS-DOS).   I again accessed the "exact"
> URL shown above a moment ago, while writing this E-Mail, and I
> again had no problem with it.   Others can try doing the same.

Do a ping, whois, traceroute, or nslookup on it.  Tell me what you get.

For instance, I get

> tracert  ms-dos7.hit.bg

Tracing route to ms-dos7.hit.bg [195.24.39.97]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    30 ms     4 ms     4 ms  web.hit.bg [195.24.39.97]
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3    12 ms    11 ms    11 ms  tenge-0-5-0-3.nycmnya-rtr2.nyc.rr.com
[24.168.129.209]
  4    14 ms    15 ms    16 ms  bun101.nycmnytg-rtr001.nyc.rr.com
[184.152.112.107]
  5    14 ms    16 ms    15 ms  tenge-0-3-0-nwrknjmd-rtr.nyc.rr.com [24.29.97.6]
  6    16 ms    14 ms    15 ms  ae-4-0.cr0.nyc30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.78]
  7    13 ms    43 ms    13 ms  ae-1-0.pr0.nyc30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.161]
  8     *       15 ms    13 ms  xe-4-2-0.edge4.frankfurt1.level3.net
[4.68.63.121]
  9   111 ms   100 ms   106 ms  ae-31-51.ebr1.Newark1.Level3.net [4.69.156.30]
 10    98 ms    99 ms    98 ms  ae-2-2.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.132.97]
 11   102 ms    98 ms    96 ms  ae-62-62.csw1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.148.34]

 12   100 ms   100 ms    97 ms  ae-61-61.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.134.65]

 13    99 ms    98 ms    98 ms  ae-42-42.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.137.69]
 14   103 ms    98 ms    98 ms  ae-21-21.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net
[4.69.148.186]
 15    98 ms    98 ms    97 ms  ae-82-82.csw3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net
[4.69.140.26]
 16   105 ms    99 ms   100 ms  ae-3-80.edge6.Frankfurt1.Level3.net
[4.69.154.138]
 17    97 ms   127 ms    97 ms  195.16.161.82
 18   141 ms   136 ms   133 ms  195.24.36.122
 19     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 20     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 21     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 22     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 23     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 28     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 30     *        *        *     Request timed out.

Trace complete.


> The 2-diskette installation set for V7.10 MS-DOS, available on
> that site, does work well, and it rather STRONGLY suggests its
> "installer" was written by Microsoft.

Like I said, it's also available from the last Internet.org crawl, if
others have the same difficulty
I did.

> I shall not argue "legalities" with you, nor in fact do I know
> any lawyers.   My own divorce and jury-duty experiences in the
> past have left me NOT WANTING to know any!   Instead of making
> such an "issue" of legalities, perhaps you should STOP at your
> own statement above:  "Honestly, just use whatever you want to
> use, 'whatever works!'"   No-argument here, so I will continue
> to use my reliable and SMALL V6.22 MS-DOS.   I hate "bugs" and
> "bloat", of which V6.22 MS-DOS has neither!

I don't think anyone here believes we shouldn't be guided by our own
conscience in what we choose to download/use.

What will be argued about is what the FreeDOS Project should link to
on it's website.  I'm quite certain Jim Hall would not want a link to
the site.

> And re: your comment that "You can't 'freely' download, modify
> or redistribute any DOS besides FreeDOS", I can only say again
> that the above website most-certainly DID work for me!

Freely in this context is generally taken to include "legally".  This
isn't.  You may not *care*, but that doesn't change the legality.
______
Dennis

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