you can always end in a petition. smile. that's what I did the last
time and when I got an explanation here on lisst later on why I wasn't
getting a responce, I said, ok, I understand that, but deeply in my
heart I feel like I'll give it another go in the near future, either
way good luck!

On 7/16/09, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
> This is the third time of asking about the dungeons.
>
> The first got me no answer. The second got me the suggestion about an aski
> map, and the third got me that response.
>
> I'm concerned not just because I've personally invested time (aqnd a small
> amount of money), in the game, but also on the general accessibility front.
>
> I did send a polite E-mail back explaning that single coordinates for each
> page didn't strike me as a major change, and highlighting the disparity
> betwene the situation of a Vi and fully sited player, but I'm not certain
> the Gm is going to be reasonable about this one.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "piotr machacz" <piterm...@gmail.com>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Warriors 2 inaccessible?
>
>
>> you defunitely shouldn't leave it alone now dark. though I don't play
>> the game I know by experience it's better to ask multiple times if you
>> really want, or even need, something from someone.
>>
>> On 7/16/09, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
>>> I will admit spacial memory isn't exactly my forte, however the clear
>>> access
>>> difference betwene having a full graphical map which shows you precisely
>>> where you've been in a dungeon, and just having a choice of directions of
>>> where to go in each room (which are very generically described so there's
>>>
>>> no
>>> way of telling your position from that), should be obvious.
>>>
>>> It's not the size of the dungeons I mind, it's this total lack of
>>> information, and the unwillingness of the Gm to even Countinance any sort
>>>
>>> of
>>> access suggestion, ---- especially after I've had some good responses
>>> from
>>> him on things like labeling in game buttons.
>>>
>>> Obviously accessibility is something which is okay, so long as it doesn't
>>> actually involve doing anything.
>>>
>>> That's why I'm not precisely happy about this, and why I'm considering a
>>> correct response.
>>>
>>> Beware the Grue!
>>>
>>> Dark.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Shadow Dragon" <elementalult...@hotmail.com>
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Warriors 2 inaccessible?
>>>
>>>
>>>> For the record, I've never had any trouble with navigating the warriors2
>>>> dungeon system, it just takes some patience, some basic spacial memory
>>>> skill and a bit of strategic planning, especially for the bigger
>>>> dungeons.
>>>>
>>>> Sure they're not as cut and dried as the comparitively small sryth
>>>> dungeons, but I don't think it warrants this harsh of a response.
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:21 AM
>>>> To: <Gamers@audyssey.org>
>>>> Subject: [Audyssey] Warriors 2 inaccessible?
>>>>
>>>>> sinse i keep getting utterly lost in the warriors 2 dungeons, I've
>>>>> gbeen
>>>>> trying to discuss setting up a coordinates system with the gm.
>>>>>
>>>>> His initial suggestion of an aski map wasn't great, and after I asked
>>>>> about in room coordinates I got the following charming response:
>>>>>
>>>>> with the system i have today im sorry to tell.. there are
>>>>> hundreds of different dungeons, so writing such things would
>>>>> be impossible, writing a code that pickedup what you can
>>>>> see in a dungeon is not that easy ider im affraid. none can
>>>>> se the howl dungeon, its covered in "fog of war", so you can
>>>>> only se where you have resently been. this makes it hard as
>>>>> hell to just tell how to get from one point to another in some
>>>>> smart way.
>>>>> best regardS/Zac
>>>>>
>>>>> Needless to say, I won't be playing the game anymore, sinse I'm at the
>>>>> stage now where to do anything new I absolutely need to do dungeons to
>>>>> progress in the game, and I'll be making a note of this on the
>>>>> audiogames.net warriors 2 page as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Beware the Grue!
>>>>>
>>>>> Dark.
>>>>>
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