Hi,
Unfortunately, I've met my fair share of people like that. My in-laws are a prime example of the type of bigots that they think they are the judge, jury, and executioner on everything and anything regardless if they know anything factual about it or not. Such condemning evidence can come from a brief commercial, what roomers they have heard, or another Christians opinion on the subject. in other words they draw their conclusions not on facts but on other's subjective opinions, comments, and their own bias towards this or that. For example, when I first met my wife her family and I got into a topic about movies, entertainment, etc. I made the mistake of mentioning i was a big fan of Star Wars. Her parents started in on me right away that Star Wars was evil, Satanic, and they had devils in it, etc. It was obvious from the conversation that they didn't have a clue what Star Wars was about, and they had a subjective notion based on completely false information. After arguing back and forth for a while I soon discovered they had seen a commercial for the Phantom menace where they had seen a brief clip of Darth Maul. They assumed because Darth Maul looked like a devil that he was to play the part of Satan in the movie. Their conclusion was totally false, of course, but that's how easily they were convinced Star Wars is Satanic. My point is that if people like that want to be taken seriously when discussing the morality of games, movies, books, whatever they first have to get their facts straight. Only facts, not assumptions, will be a more effective tool in making their argument and will strengthen their case. Simply stating game x, movie x, or book x is evil without offering up real facts or evidence to back up their opinion is meaningless.



ChB wrote:
The incredibly stupid part is also that usually the ones
condemning video games are the ones who have nebver even
played a single one of those games themselves.
Bigottry comes with a lot of prejudice, be it games or
against other minority people. It is probably best to just
ignore such attempts and not give it acknowledgement by even
bother discussing them. That just makes them think one is
taking them seriously.
chrissy

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Hi,
The articles appeared to have no credible information at
all; from start to
finish, they kept naming "one youth" who said "this or
that." Very rarely
did they mention names, and to me that's suspicious as far
as their content
and research is concerned.
Further, they explained their arguments by asking questions.
For instance,
they ask "Could not such games cultivate an unhealthy
curiosity about
demonic forces?" Does this question really prove anything?
My answer to that
is, no. Sure, some may argue that those types of questions
get you to think,
but the way I see things, there is no point in asking a
rhetorical question
if you will not answer it. I see their "findings" as a bunch
of logical
fallacies, saying things like "If x represents y, then can't
Y be harmful
for the child?" Maybe if they had more credible information
instead of "as
one youth put it," I would be more open to their articles.
For now, though,
I have dismissed it as an attempt of so-called "religious
fundamentalism"
trying to destroy monotheism again.
The authors commit an obvious fallacy when they mention the
Bible's
viewpoint on magic, and then state that games are teaching
magic today. In a
game, you are not taught how to wave a wand, concentrate
your thoughts, go
in to a state of meditation, curse people, etc. All you do
is press buttons.
If the power goes out, well, there goes your little magic
trick. Why do the
same people who condemn such games say it is okay to play
online poker as
long as you are not playing for money? Forget about magic,
and focus on
condemning gambling first--which is a much more realistic
issue.
I agree that certain types of games are not suited for
children, but that
has nothing to do with the "Christian viewpoint"--anyone,
anywhere, can tell
you that much. Instead of saying "that is what a good
faithful Christian
believes" the statement would be more correct if it said
"that is what
anyone in their right mind believes."
Munawar A. Bijani
"Knowledge is of two types: absorbed and heard. The heard
knowledge is only
useful if it is absorbed." - Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib, Nahj
Al-Balagha
mailto:munaw...@gmail.com
http://www.bpcprograms.com
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articles
Absolutely. Also sometimes games can be a good way of
stress relief as
well. Or if you're seriously annoyed at something you can
vent that
annoyance in a game. Whether it be something like doom or
anything else.
To my mind games are harmless. If kids for example get a
hold of said
games then quite frankly it's the fault of the parents for
either
allowing them to play them or not being watchful enough
around their
kids. That said there are situations where by for example
if said child
goes to a friends house and plays said game that's always
a problem.

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