I know, but idea is it might still give them a basic idea relating to how
the sound effects relate to the graphical rendition.
I did also put together a very simple version of snakes and ladders at some
stage, but using the original snakes and ladders board I got off wikipedia
as a background image, and with sort of enforced talking using either SAPI
or your screen reader along with simple sound effects, and part of the idea
was that maybe if sighted kids played it, they'd at least have an idea of
what screenreaders could do, but my one irritation was that apparently the
blocks on that board aren't exactly the same sizes, so my character pieces
(simple windows labels with the smiley face character in them) apparently
seemed to go off course when I just moved them over 38 pixels at a time, and
haven't found a graphic designer etc. who seems able to understand what I
told them I wanted to know and let them look at the board...
Will try find a copy thereof if anyone wants to check it out...but it's
extremely simplistic, and was really more of a test app with regard to
making the computer talk as such.
I also have two sighted friends who sometimes prefer to wear blindfolds when
playing chess as well.
The other silly joke is I tell my sighted friends not to let me deal my
braille playing cards since tell them maybe I'd be able to feel what I'm
dealing...
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games
The awareness stuff sounds good Jacob, ---- but bare in mind that thus
far, only audio quake and terraformers have actual graphics.
Gma tank commander and sound rts have basic graphics which give you some
information visually, ---- but are in no way representative of a graphical
game (especially with the graphics of games today).
As to the chess thing, I've seen my brother play a match of chess without
any contact with the board whatsoever, ---- doing everything in his head.
That's not so much a sight thing though, as being an amazingly good chess
player, and is quite open to anyone to use.
I've myself done guide dog events like that, ---- most recently a car
drive which was rather fun.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Kruger" <jac...@mailzone.co.za>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games
I know, but these people have most likely seen someone like that famous
russian chess player who just played quite a few games at the same time,
but I suppose they reckon he was still scanning the boards or something.
Fact is I know at least one guy this side though who is VI/blind, but
when he plays chess, he doesn't even touch the board, and listening to
him playing against someone else, he literally takes around half a second
to tell them his next move, but, yes, suppose it still comes down to
educating everyone including sighted people, and one of the things was
looking into at a time was trying to get into one of those lan gaming
sessions, and maybe try at least get sighted guys to try out things like
audio quake, top speed 2, sound RTS, BGChess, GMA tank commander, etc.
etc. since I think they all have graphics as well, but the idea would be
to let blind/VI guys play against them, and maybe we'd also try get them
to try it out with a blindfold at some stage as well...LOL!
Similar to the two events have organised/been involved in this side,
where the one was letting sighties wear blindfolds while listening to a
narrated movie soundtrack and trying to eat etc., and recently at a guide
dog fundraising walk, some of my friends got some of the participants to
try out things like blind dart throwing, blind cricket bowling, etc. -
awareness...
Maybe, like the fact that there's already been an article about me in
local motorcycle magazine relating to me riding a bike etc., we would
then try to get the local computing magazines to wake up...yeah
right...LOL!
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games
Hi Jacob,
Yes, I've seen plenty of people like that as well. Back when I was in
college and discovered Audyssey and Audiogames.net i began telling
others about it. The general reaction was "I don't be leave that could
be possible. How could you play games by sound alone?"
The thing is weather we are talking about sighted or blind reactions to
audio games is the general conception of what a game is. Most people
think in order to play games you have to have lots of 2d or 3d graphics,
that video games are completely visual, and that someone blind could not
play a game completely by sound alone. Therefore they never considered
the fact someone like USA Games could come up with a game like Mysteries
of the Ancients based completely on audio or that GMA could create a
Doom clone using a rather advanced FPS engine for the blind.
Again this comes back to education. Educating our sighted peers as well
as our blind ones. One reason major game companies haven't considered
blindness accessibility is fundamentally they doubt it is possible, or
that doing so would cost them thousands in extra financial overhead.
That is just bologna of course, but try telling them that.
Jacob Kruger wrote:
Do remember it, and, yup, people just need to know about these things.
Unfortunately, the other issue is it's something people generally seem
to think is impossible to comprehend, etc.
Most sighted guys I've worked on a computer in front of seemed to
initially think it was some form of hoax etc., and when you mention
games to either sighted guys, or even most other VI computer users,
they also seem to have not even considered it as possibly
existing...LOL!
I've tried promoting websites like audiogames.net on my small mailing
list, and have a link to it on my website, but still, have only really
found around 3 other guys this side who really seem to be into gaming
as such, and you get other guys who are relatively technical on
computers, but who never thought of looking for games as such.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
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