Hi Thomas. I personally would prefer you to do the game that you want to do, and for me the simpler the better, because it takes less work and therefore will be with us quicker and wont take too much time out of other development of yours. I've said before and I will say again, its important that you makethe game you are happy with. I am really looking forward to playing this game, and hope it wont be long until you do a game around the late 90s as this was my main WWF period, during the early to mid 90s I mainly watched WCW and was too young to watch any wrestling in the 80s, but do have knowledge of most of the names in your rostr. Thanks Richard
On 4/13/11, Phil Vlasak <p...@pcsgames.net> wrote: > Hi Thomas, > We had a similar debate when I worked on Harry Hollingworth's World Series > Baseball. > There was a core group of fans that played only teams from the same year and > even did a 165 game season to determine who was in the world series. > But most of the game players didn't care to be realistic and enjoyed playing > any two teams against each other. > Some even requested that they be able to add themselves into the game as a > player and give themselves stats to rival the greatest. > I did get a special thrill when the game said that Phil Vlasak hit a home > run to win the game. > We found that at least ninety percent of the game owners played it as > fantasy baseball rather than the purists who played it as a real game. > Phil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible WWE Roster > > >> HI Dark, >> >> Yeah, well one thing is for certain regardless what I do I can't >> please everyone. That's true with every game a developer creates, and >> it becomes more of an issue any time a game features something like >> Star Trek, Star Wars, wrestling, etc as hard core fans see it as a >> type of fan fiction where those who aren't hard core fans just see it >> as another game. >> >> For instance, let's take Trek 2000 verses Final Conflict. Well, when >> David Greenwood wrote his Star Trek game, Trek 2000, it is pretty >> obvious he wasn't interested in making it too technical. I.E. doing >> everything achording to cannon. As a result the game was ok, but >> wasn't great. My biggest complaint was that it lacked a lot of >> technical details from the original Star Trek series, and it was >> dumbed down to help novis gamers. >> >> For example, i know for a fact that the original Enterprise had 100 >> photon torpedoes. The Enterprise in Trek 2000 only carried 10. On Star >> Trek, as in real life, they had to set a course like (0, 9, 0) rather >> than north, south, east , west. I thought the north, south, east, west >> directions in Trek 2000 was really hoky. I.E. not at all realistic or >> technically accurate. >> >> Basically, because I was a big Star Trek fan, follow cannon the way >> some people might follow their favorite sports team, I had all these >> expectations what a Star Trek game would and should be like. These are >> details that would only be of concern to a hard core Trek fan, but not >> matter to your average gamer who maybe purchased the game just for a >> little fun. Someone who isn't up on Trek cannon wouldn't care, but >> those who know the cannon would find it disappointing. Which is what >> happened. >> >> So my first project for USA Games was to basically rewrite Trek 2000 >> my way which resulted in the creation of Final Conflict. Admitedly it >> wasn't my best work, I could have done better, but I did my best to >> write it using actual facts and cannon based on the television series. >> Plus instead of using generic names like navigation, scanning, and >> weapons I used the actual names of those stations like Helm, Ops, and >> Tactical. Trek fans loved it, but some people who tried the game who >> didn't know anything about Star Trek asked me why I called it Ops >> instead of Sensors or Scanning or something self-explanitory. Which >> brings us directly to the heart of the matter. >> >> One of the things I set out to do when starting USA Games is to write >> games based on cannon. Weather I write a Star Trek game or write a >> wrestling game I do my best to make the game as true to the cannon as >> possible which generally is widely accepted as a good thing by >> dedicated fans. However, someone like yourself, who doesn't know >> wrestling cannon well, that obviously isn't a good thing. >> >> I guess it is kind of like coming into a movie half way through and >> asking everyone, "who is this or that character, what is going on, >> why is he/she doing this or that?" All are valid questions, because >> you simply don't know the back story, and you aren't going to enjoy it >> as much as the guy sitting next to you who watched it from the moment >> the movie started. >> >> I think this is actually where our diference of opinion originates. >> I'm the guy who has been watching the movie from the beginning, so to >> speak, and you just entered after missing a good portion of it. Your >> idea of wrestling is sketchy at best so Toni the Tiger and Captain >> Crunch are just as viable options as Hulk Hogan and Ricky "the Dragon" >> Steamboat to you. However, as a cannonest myself I would feel like >> Toni the Tiger and Captain Crunch don't belong in the game and should >> be barred from playing on any official roster.However, that's not to >> say we can't do both. >> >> One of the things I like about Srith is you can select from a list of >> pregenerated/created characters, I.E. cannon adventurers, or you can >> custom create your own. I think a similar idea could apply here. For >> the wrestling cannonest like myself I can simply choose to play one of >> the existing restlers from the list. Someone else who doesn't really >> know wrestling that well or wants to add a wrestler not in the >> database they could add him/her as a custom player. If you want to >> have a fantasy match between the Super Mario Brothers and the Powers >> of Pain that should be possible even if it isn't necessarily official >> cannon just by adding them to the database and playing them. So I'll >> think about it. >> >> >> Anyway, as far as text goes again I have to agree. That's over all I >> think the best user interface/output for this kind of project. Its >> easy, very cross-platform, and as I mentioned before some screen >> readers like Window-Eyes 7.5 reads everything on the screen pretty >> well anyway. After all, as you said using Sapi voices etc to do >> interviews etc would suck anyway so might as well just read them with >> your screen reader rather than try and fudge it using Sapi voices. So >> I think what we can do is try it using a text UI to begin with, and if >> there is a big demand for self-voicing we will cross that road when we >> come to it. >> >> HTH >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. 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