HI Dark,

Yeah, but one major difference between Jim's baseball game and the
wrestling game I'm working on is he stores all of his names etc in
text files. I can't really do that because the way I'm designing the
game everything is pretty specific to each wrestler. I.E. they have
there own specific artificial intelligence, signature moves, etc so
they act and wrestle as the real life person would. This is a
completely different kind of game than Jim's baseball because the
artificial intelligence etc is so generic it doesn't matter who is
playing who because the game will play the same. Not so with my
wrestling game. Everything is finely detailed, and changing stuff you
shouldn't change would screw up all the work I spent in designing that
really custom A.I.

Of course, all of this depends on actually basing the game on real
life people, and writing the game from a strictly purest point of
view. Having read Phil's post I'm not so sure that's a good idea. You
yourself have repeatedly made the point you aren't up on wrestling
history etc. So maybe the answer is just to walk away from the big
name super stars, walk away from the WWE, TNA, WCW, and all that and
come up with something completely original from scratch. A whole bunch
of new wrestlers with their own unique back stories, signature moves,
and completely copyright free to boot. As I just got done saying to
Phil I don't think that would be to hard to do, the community could
help with ideas, and it could be a lot of fun just being creative.

Just as I've been sitting here writing these messages a number of
ideas have come to me. I can think of some names for tag teams like
the Head Hunters, the Outlaws, the Titans, and things like that. As
for wrestlers I'm sure I can come up with some convincing names as
well. Its not like the professional wrestlers exactly have incredibly
original names either. For instance, back in the 80's one of the top
female stars was Princess Victoria. That's ok, but right off the top
of my head I can think of cooler names than that. A name like Vixon
sounds like a great name for a heel female wrestler.

So what do you think. Should we just try this out as an independant
fantasy wrestling game and see how it goes?


On 4/13/11, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
> Hi Tom.
> You are indeed right, and were you making a game based on Dr. who or tolkien
> which are! major interests of mine I'd be the first to insist on canonical
> details, and while I'm probably more casual about startrek I do appreciate
> the correctness of a game like final conflict.
> however, sinse this is! a sports sim, and each wrestler or wrestling
> federation is at rock bottom (ha ha), only a name and set of statistics,
> there really is no reason why the engine couldn't be created to do both by
> simply customizing wrestler names.
> Look at Jim's baseball game as an example. someone who was a big baseball
> fan could write in team and player names correct to real baseball teams and
> players, where as someone like myself can simply modify the names and such
> according to personal amusement.
> in fact on one occasion I had the 10 doctors vs Hogwarts, and having the
> fifth doctor batting against harry potter was rather amusing! ;D.
> Add in a few extra stats for strength, power, pluss descriptions of
> signature moves and you have a wrestling sim, whether you want the champion
> of your federation to be hulk hogan with power 10, staminer 10 and speed 10
> and the big boot, or bob the batlin gold fish with the same stats and the
> fishtank splash.
> eitherway, you've got your champion wrestler.
> on the self voicing issue, personally the only difference I find betwene
> sapi and Hal is that with Hal I may need to manually read the text where as
> with sapi it's read to me by the program.
> If the program requires timed reading of the text and input, such as lone
> wolf or playing a mud, I therefore much prefer sapi sinse oddes are though
> Hal will read it I don't want the extra reading time factored in, but if
> there is no time limit I don't tend to worry too much.
> This is why I've used Hal to play many text games from world of legends to
> anything written in tads, and indeed as a suplimentary reading method in
> winfrotz tts after sapi has read the entire prompt.
> I suppose sapi is sort of lazier on my part, but that's about it ;D.
> Beware the grue!
> Dark.

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