Well clemment, fighting ames muddy the waters even more, sinse you can't
turn around completely even in a game with an 8 way run system like soul
calibur, you are always facing your opponent.
This is indeed why I myself with limited spacial perception can play 3D beat
em ups, but not other 3d games like platformers or brawlers, sinse in a beat
em up your movements are stil relative to your opponent and the spacial
visual elements only need to be worked out relative to his/her position and
yours.
It's really quite a mine field, sinse even a game like super starwars had 3d
effects say on the dunes in the desert which were purely visual.
Myself though I'd just go on the basis of where you can go.
Even in final fight and the like you can only move up and down a small way,
each level is pretty much rectangular, and you stil can only walk forward
and backwards facing one way, so as far as I'm concerned it's stil 2D.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clement Chou" <chou.clem...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
As I said in my response to Dark's message, I think I get what is trying
to be said. And like I said in my last message also, I just never
considered the specifics of 2d vs. 3d. I grew up calling side scrollers 2d
because that was what everyone else around me called it. Game review sites
classified them as such, and that was what fit my own perceptions, since
as I said, 2d to me has always been anything that's flat and purely
horrizontal, like a typical drawing. I know there are 3d pictures and
such, yes, but those kinds of pictures were always too hard for me to
figure out. But in terms of games, I just always associated 3d with a 360
degree of movement, again because that was how everyone else refered to
them. This is why I never understood why 3d fighters like Tekken and MK 4
were considered 3d, even though the only thing remotely resembling that
was sidestepping. The only true 3d fighting game I've ever played was the
soul calibur series, because those did have a full range of movement.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Hi,
We aren't saying that Super Liam and Q9 aren't good games. What we are
saying is that the full 2d potential of such games aren't fully
realized or used where a lot of mainstream games included quite a bit
of movement along both the x and y axis of movement.
For instance, a beat-m-up I use to play alot, Legend of Kage, was
primarily run left or right and mow down as many enemy ninjas as you
can. Most of the combat and movement was strictly along the x axis.
However, there were also levels where you could move along the y axis
as well such as running up and down staircases in the castle, or
jumping from tree top to tree top in the forest over the heads of the
ninjas. If an enemy ninja was in the trees you could knock him out of
the tree and you'd watch him fall to the ground. I haven't personally
seen anyaudio side-scrollers add this 2d element to combat and
movement. I personally consider this a feature rather than weather
game x is good or bad.
Cheers!
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