On 4/10/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Martin Cooper wrote: > > > On 4/10/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> > >> On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 22:31 -0400, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > >>> Yes. A lot of things predate the incubator. I'm not opposed to say > an > >>> HTTPD-sandbox for experimental HTTPD related stuff. > >>> I'm not opposed to a POI-sandbox (indeed we have one but call it > >>> scratchpad) for POI-related stuff. However Jakarta-sandbox is > >>> SCOPELESS. Go have a scopeless sandbox on sourceforge IMO. If you > want > >>> to start a whole NEW project then do that in the incubator IMO. > >> > >> the sandbox already exists. the management and supervision were > >> entrusted to the commons sub-project. sub-projects have no formal > >> existence. the scope of the sandbox is the same as the scope for > >> jakarta. > >> > >> anything that is in scope for jakarta is in scope for sub-projects. > code > >> in other languages is pretty much out but nearly any subject is in > >> scope. the only limits are imposed by the community itself. > > > > > > When something graduates from this "Jakarta Sandbox", where does it go? > > Being a _Jakarta_ sandbox, one might assume that it becomes a Jakarta > > subproject. But Hen has claimed to want to morph Jakarta into a > > non-umbrella, and graduating to a new Jakarta subproject would be > counter to > > that goal. On the other hand, if it graduates to somewhere outside of > > Jakarta, why is the sandbox inside of Jakarta? > > In my incoherent mind it's: > > Jakarta is > Components > Sandbox > > Things move from sandbox to components. Once there, they are arranged into > groupings to smooth communication.
That would be fine if there was a well-defined scope for the sandbox. As Andy and others have pointed out, there is no scope right now. That means that someone could start, say, a new servlet container, or an OSGi framework, or whatever, that would have no reasonable place as a Jakarta Component. -- Martin Cooper Hen > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
