> > > ( Can't work on an image that's now showing on the monitor) >
(Is that a typo, e.g. "now" or "not"? I need to make sure how I'm reading the sentence before responding. And yes, I've seen people actually make that specific typo before.) Yes, sorry. Should say "not" showing. > - Duplicate the image (Image > Duplicate). This blocks you from accidentally saving the resized version over the XCF file. this may be the best work around for me. > 5 - You are done! There is no need to re-open the PNG file. Well, this may or may not be true. When, six months or a year later I want to look at a .png (check the resolution, see whether it needs to be sharpened/signed/whatever) then I do, sometimes want to look at (and maybe adjust in some way) a png image. I've been spoiled with the ability to do that in 2.6 (open -- see that it's what I want--close) but I'm just going to have to get used to another way. And the comments I get about not really having an image that I think I have (several people say variations of that) is completely over my head. And wonder whether it has a practical significance or just a semantic one. Thank you for the ideas. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Richard <strata_ran...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Short answer: The problem is with your workflow, not GIMP. > > > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:27:17 -0500 > > From: etter...@gmail.com > > To: l...@holoweb.net; gimp-user-list@gnome.org > > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter > > > > First In gimp 2.6: > > open or create new file. Name it. > > > > I now have (e.g.) village.xcf > > > > Work on it for weeks, saving every few minutes with > > > > file > save > > > > I now have village.xcf with all layers preserved > > > > I finish the picture, and do two steps: > > > > file > save, and then > > > > file > SaveAs > village.png > > > > I now have two copies of my creation, one with layers, and one flattened. > > > > The village.png is now the one I see on my screen; title bar confirms > > > > I then do > > > > Image > scale image > change X & Y resolution to 72 and pixel to some > > small size > > > > and click Scale. > > > > I now have one large village.xcf with all properties preserved,and one > > small flattened village.png for mailing or uploading. > > > > All is well. > > No, you don't. According to these steps, you saved the PNG file *BEFORE* > scaling it to a lower resolution, so unless you issue another Save command > to the PNG file (possibly when closing the image and GIMP 2.6 asks you to > "save changes?"), your PNG file is a flattened copy of the XCF file at its > original HIGH resolution, not the lower resolution you want for > distribution. You should be resizing the image BEFORE outputting the PNG. > > > Now, in gimp 2.8 > > > > open or create new file. Name it. > > > > I now have (e.g.) village.xcf > > Work on it for weeks, saving every few minutes with > > file > save > > > > I now have village.xcf with all layers preserved > > I finish the picture, and do two steps: > > > > file > save, and then > > > > file > export > > > > I now have a flattened image named village.png > > > > So I need to scale it, make it small enough to email or upload > > > > Again - why are you exporting FIRST and resizing the image SECOND? It > should be the other way around. > > > But unlike in 2.6, I can’t simply proceed to do that. I have to re-open > > village.png > > > > ( Can't work on an image that's now showing on the monitor) > > > > (Is that a typo, e.g. "now" or "not"? I need to make sure how I'm reading > the sentence before responding. And yes, I've seen people actually make > that specific typo before.) > > > So I go to > > > > File > Open Recent > and click village.png > > > > But of course when it opens it's no longer png > > It opens as [village](imported) > > > > That is a titlebar display issue (which was pointed out earlier), when you > open a non-XCF file in GIMP it doesn't display the file's extension (for > what reason I don't understand either). It does not actually affect the > fact that GIMP knows this image was opened from a PNG file. In other > words, it's harmless and you shouldn't pay it any attention. > > > > > Now I can of course scale this one down, but I can't save it as png > > > > so I have to export it again after I scale it. > > > > Look on your File menu and you should notice the "Export" command has > changed to "Overwrite [village.png]" - notice that yes, it does include the > PNG extension. > > > But then I have to rename it because I already have a village.png. > > > > Is this the intended work flow for creating a small, flattened png copy > of > > a large multi-layerd xcf? > > > > It seems to be creating difficulties for a number of users. I don't think > > we'd have had this mountain of complaints over something as trivial as an > > unwanted save warning. > > > > You're right this is not the intended workflow. The intended workflow is > that Export should be the FINAL command in the process. If you need to > open the exported file, make FURTHER changes then export again, well, "ur > doin it wrong". > > Now since you are specifically exporting a lower-resolution version than > what you saved to the XCF file there IS a risk that you don't want to > accidentally Save the resized version over the XCF after exporting it. So, > I guess your intended workflow should look something like this: > > 0 - Save the XCF as needed. Then when it comes time to Export the image... > 1 - Duplicate the image (Image > Duplicate). This blocks you from > accidentally saving the resized version over the XCF file. You may notice > the titlebar on this second window says "[Untitled]" rather than > "village.xcf". Don't concern yourself about that. > 2 - Resize the image as needed. > 4 - NOW export the image as a PNG. > 5 - You are done! There is no need to re-open the PNG file. > 6 - Ignore what the titlebar looks like (e.g. "[village]" not > "[village.png]"). That is not important. > 7 - Close the image window. You will be prompted if you want to save > changes on this window but you can ignore it - it's just a copy of your > image you made exclusively for resizing and exporting, and you do NOT want > to save this over your original high-resolution XCF file (this is what step > 1 was for). > 8 - Since the resize command was issued to a duplicate of your image and > not the original (which has no further changes), you can close the original > image without being prompted to "save changes". > > -- Stratadrake > strata_ran...@hotmail.com > -------------------- > Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. > Short answer: You have a workflow problem. > > -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse12.3 _______________________________________________ gimp-user-list mailing list List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
