On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Pat Suwalski <p...@suwalski.net> wrote:

> On 25/02/11 02:20 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>> So out of curiosity, what sort of  tasks do both you and Robert do if
>> you don't mind me being nosy?
> Normal day-to-day work and development. I have tonnes of windows opened,
> because I have to.

Right, I figured that you were of the developer type.  Lots of windows,
compiling and what not.  I'm in a similar boat when I'm working on an IT

> I alt-tab between windows (Process/Window Grouping makes this a real pain),
> minimize them when I need to focus (mentally). When I don't need one
> (usually a browser), I use Ctrl-W or Ctrl-Q to close it. I only use the
> close button when my left hand isn't free, in fact (coffee?). Occasionally
> alt-F4 is appropriate if the others aren't implemented and my hands are
> already on the keyboard.

> I depend on the panel list of icons, because they show me a one-to-one
> mapping of my windows, minimized or not, *in the order I opened them*. This
> is where the Win7 strip definitely doesn't cut it for me, gnome-shell makes
> it much more difficult, and MacOSX makes me somewhat unproductive.

You probably can write an extension..  Probably as we expose different parts
of GNOME through the shell.

> Lastly, I absolutely hate virtual desktops. That might be an overstatement,
> but I avoid using them. Things get lost very easily, and it's a pain to set
> them up on every boot. I find a single desktop over two monitors the right
> balance. I'll keep a blank extra virtual desktop for when I need to quickly
> do something in programs that open way too many windows, like Gimp. That
> last example is the only thing I like about the concept of workspaces in
> Mutter.
I use virtual spaces a lot.  I cannot have more than 4-5 windows open at at

> I think a better example, though, might be my brother. He's a
> uni-student/gamer, and he doesn't like to reboot, ever. He has at any given
> time, at least 25 Firefox or Chrome tabs open. He has at least 20 windows in
> his panel as well, right where he likes them. I predict that he would be
> very uncomfortable without that window-to-panel relation as well.
As an exercise, given an env like GNOME 3 and you had to come up with a new
methodology what would you do?  I found that changing to GNOME 3, no
minimize wasn't as bad as I thought it would be provided I keep the number
of windows open to a minimal of 4.  There are a couple of reasons where I
wanted to use the minimize:

1) privacy, someone is coming into my cube, and I wanted to minimize for
instance my GNOME irc channel window.  Or I'm about to make a screenshot and
I don't want to show certain windows

2) I have a jhbuild or some other thing sprouting debug messages and it's
distracting me.  this is where the shelf or whatever seems like a good
idea..  Moving to another workspace is also just as good in this case, if it
is a jhbuild, but not if it is part of a task of a cycle of

3) An application is opening sub windows that I don't currently want to see
right now

other than that it has been smooth.

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