I'd vouch for xe being genuine. Would sig scanning be picked up for this?
Tom Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Olly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:12:43 To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] WARNING: VAC may be banning developers by misdetecting server plugins as cheats. I HIGHLY doubt that this is possible. Almost every plugin I have ever written gets basic info like player locations. Either this is just another excuse to try and get unbanned, or you have found a hash collision (maybe they use MD5. But still VERY unlikely). Either way, there is no use posting here, no-one can do anything about it. Open a steam support ticket like every other person that gets banned. 2008/11/5 ZuM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yes, you can't get banned for custom Skins, and that's why theres the > server > command sv_pure, so only players with all default assets can play on these > servers. > > Probably there's some odd thing going on with VAC or with some of the > plugins being used, so VAC thinks that it's a cheat. > > Do your plugin get info where other players are located or anything like > that? Pherhaps some of this could be the problem. > > 2008/11/5 Olly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > You can't get banned for skins, or any other customizations (unless of > > course the 'customizations' were packaged in a file that included a cheat > > know by VAC) > > So your friend probably used the oldest excuse in the book... and you > fell > > for it ¬¬ > > > > 2008/11/5 Tiago Conceição <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Michael Barr do you use Skins? > > > I know guys banned by VAC because use of Skins (weapons or models) from > > > FPSbanana > > > 1 by replace all weapons skins, and other guy by only use a knife skin> > > > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:59:37 +0000> From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] WARNING: > > VAC > > > may be banning developers by misdetecting server plugins as cheats.> > > > Since > > > VAC appears to work on a checksum basis, unless you somehow > > > inadvertently > > > recreated one of these checksums (And valve were using > something like > > > CRC/MD5), I highly doubt server plugins would ever cause > this. I've > > played > > > countless games of TF2 with server plugins loaded and > i'm still "VAC > > > Status: In Good Standing"> > Minh wrote:> > hmm. interesting dilemna. I > > > imagine it must be hard for the VAC > > developers to determine what > > > scripts/plugins are considered "cheats" and > > which are not. So were > > the > > > EventScripts the only plugins you were > > running at the time?> >> > > > > Michael Barr wrote:> > > >> Hey guys,> >>> >> I'm seriously worried > that > > VAC > > > is misdetecting server plugins and banning> >> developers-- perhaps > when > > the > > > plugins are loaded from listen servers> >> inadvertantly.> >>> >> My > name > > is > > > Michael Barr, also known in the community as XE_ManUp. I'm no> >> > griefer > > or > > > hacker-- I'm the lead developer of GunGame5, the latest version> >> of > > > GunGame for the Source Engine. I have been a great supporter of VAC, > and> > > >> > > > I absolutely love the idea that if a player gets caught cheating, they > > get> > > > >> banned to avoid annoying other players. I have heard of players > > getting> > > > >> banned for "no reason" and I've been a great skeptic of that in the > > > past.> >>> >> Yet, somehow, after a weekend of GunGame testing (with > the > > > EventScripts and> >> GunGame Utils addons loaded), I was banned by VAC. > > > Without ever using any> >> sort of cheat of any type, nor even knowing > > > anything about cheats. Per the> >> Steam forums, there's always some > > > (unlikely) chance that the account got> >> "hijacked" or "hacked", but > > > there's no indication that ever happened. I'm> >> the only person to > use > > any > > > of my machines and no other gamers live with me.> >> I've discussed > with > > > other plugin developers, and the most likely cause would> >> be VAC > > > misdetecting the loaded server plugins as being associated with a> >> > > > cheat.> >>> >> Ideally, a Valve developer would help me figure out > > whether > > > these plugins> >> caused an erroneous VAC ban. But right now, I need to > > warn > > > developers not to> >> load server plugins on their listen servers > because > > > they might accidentally> >> be detected by VAC-- thereby ruining your > > Steam > > > account like mine has been.> >>> >>> >> -Michael Barr (aka XE_ManUp)> > >> > > > _______________________________________________> >> To unsubscribe, > edit > > > your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:> >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders> >>> >>> >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > _______________________________________________> > To unsubscribe, > > edit > > > your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders> >> >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________> To unsubscribe, edit > > your > > > list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Conheça o Windows Live Spaces, a rede de relacionamentos do Messenger! > > > http://www.amigosdomessenger.com.br/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders

