Maybe Valve should take a read of http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000067.html :D
-TheGeekLord Phillip Vector wrote: > It may hurt, but it's true. > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Tony Paloma <[email protected]> wrote: > >> "let someone who gets paid half as much as us..." >> Ouch. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ook >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:37 PM >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Available >> >> It's not so much that devs are not so good at testing their own code. I've >> been writing code for 20 years, and I can test my code as well as the next >> person can. It's that we don't have the time to spend 10 hours testing a >> code change that only took us 20 minutes to make. I code it, I perform basic >> >> tests to make sure I didn't do something stupid, and I send it to the QA >> department to spend the next 10 hours testing the entire system to make sure >> >> I didn't break anything. We get paid to code - let someone who gets paid >> half as much as us spend their day testing code. It is a really stupid >> business practice to rely on devs to test code changes. >> >> In Valve's case, the devs perform preliminary testing and then they publish >> it to the world to let us, the QA team aka customers test it :) >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Keeper" <[email protected]> >> To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'" >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:11 PM >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Available >> >> >> >>> Agreed. 100% >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Midnight [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:04 PM >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Available >>> >>> This is why software companies have QA teams, Developers are not good at >>> finding bugs since they are too close to their own code. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
