It's a reflection of how much companies value QA people (or don't value 
them), not so much how much devs get paid. A good dev might make 85K or 
more, depending on where they work and what they do. A good QA person is 
lucky to get paid much more then minimum wage.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phillip Vector" <[email protected]>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Available


It may hurt, but it's true.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Tony Paloma <[email protected]> wrote:
> "let someone who gets paid half as much as us..."
> Ouch.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ook
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:37 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Available
>
> It's not so much that devs are not so good at testing their own code. I've
> been writing code for 20 years, and I can test my code as well as the next
> person can. It's that we don't have the time to spend 10 hours testing a
> code change that only took us 20 minutes to make. I code it, I perform 
> basic
>
> tests to make sure I didn't do something stupid, and I send it to the QA
> department to spend the next 10 hours testing the entire system to make 
> sure
>
> I didn't break anything. We get paid to code - let someone who gets paid
> half as much as us spend their day testing code. It is a really stupid
> business practice to rely on devs to test code changes.
>
> In Valve's case, the devs perform preliminary testing and then they 
> publish
> it to the world to let us, the QA team aka customers test it :)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keeper" <[email protected]>
> To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Available
>
>
>> Agreed. 100%
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Midnight [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:04 PM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Available
>>
>> This is why software companies have QA teams, Developers are not good at
>> finding bugs since they are too close to their own code.
>>
>>
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