Yeah I saw that, but generally I support the idea of a centralized blacklist.
But only with really malicious servers. - voogru. -----Original Message----- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of DontWannaName! Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:36 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Hey look Voogru, you are on that list too for running 24+ max slots lol :P 24+ max players is part of the game now so that makes little sense... 67.213.213.107voogru.com24+ Max Players On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matt Hoffman <lord.matt.hoff...@gmail.com>wrote: > There's already http://tf2app.com/blacklist/ which is an active list. I > believe it is designed for Peer Guardian/Peer Block/etc, so I second the > option to import IP's and not have it be formatted. > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald < > voo...@voogru.com> wrote: > > > The issue with the fake "bot" pings would probably have become more of an > > issue now that bots are becoming more available. Malicious server > operators > > could disguise the valve tf2 bots as real players. > > > > Combine that with fake players in queries and you have one more problem > to > > deal with. > > > > I've seen some of these servers actually disable the status command so > you > > can't see their "BOT" steamids as well. > > > > With the creation of blacklists hopefully some people come up with a > decent > > blacklist. I would have liked to see the blacklist option be able to > import > > IP's from a website (even if it's just a txt file on the website) like > > PeerGuardian, perhaps it can be in a future update. > > > > > > -voogru > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dislexsick > > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 6:44 PM > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available > > > > The update states it is people changing the word BOT in the ping column > on > > the scoreboard... > > > > This does not address fake player counts, a far more widespread and > > malicious tactic imo. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Joshua Bost > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andy C <grossk...@flotgaming.net> > > Sent: Thursday, 7 January 2010 09:37 > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available > > > > The bot issue you are refering to has to do with server admins running > > "fake > > clients" plugins. These report more players in the server than there > > actually is. Apparently Valve has come up with bots that actually play > the > > game, just like in L4D/L4D2. > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Josh Bost <dislexs...@dislexsick.com> > > wrote: > > > > > "Tuned scoreboard logic to guard against malicious server operators > > > spoofing > > > bot pings to hide the "BOT" tag." > > > > > > As a follower of the SPUF I have seen threads about servers with bots > > with > > > simulated pings, one just yesterday, in-fact. After reading this, > > > the consensus seemed to be that although some people felt 'ripped off' > it > > > made a better experience for a few people. After reading about it I > was > > > curious, so I done a quick google search and sure enough there was a > > single > > > plugin with something like 3 replies on the alliedmods forums. > > > > > > I don't really understand - Clearly this was not a completely > widespread > > > issue, and calling the server owners malicious is a little bit wrong I > > > think. Personally, I wouldn't mind a server with a few bots as hosting > a > > > server locally, even with a fairly beefy CPU (Core2 Q9550) my game > > grinds > > > to a screeching halt with 15 bots (9fps ftw). > > > > > > Anyway, since this is a controversial topic I realize this is not going > > to > > > change, as it is for 'the better of the community' but really, I still > > > think > > > people are going to find a way around; I also think Valve would have > been > > > better off spending their time fixing a *real* problem, such as fake > > client > > > counts - after all bots still contribute to the game. > > > (For the record I don't even host a TF2 server [I used to help run one, > > now > > > I have a L4D2 server], so my points are not coming from a bias pov) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Josh Bost > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Jason Ruymen <jas...@valvesoftware.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available. Please run > > > > hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific change include: > > > > > > > > Server Browser (for TF2 and DoD:S) > > > > - Added a client-side server blacklist: > > > > - Supports blacklisting of specific servers, all servers on an > IP, > > > and > > > > all servers on a class C range. > > > > - Saves the server list to a file, and has an Import button to > > allow > > > > easy sharing (cfg\server_blacklist.txt) > > > > > > > > Balance changes: > > > > - Reduced the health penalty on The Sandman. > > > > - The Force-A-Nature knockback on target now: > > > > - Only applies to hits that deal more than 30 damage and are in > > > close > > > > range. > > > > - Factors in the firer's angle of attack when determining the > > > > knockback direction. > > > > - Has less of an effect on grounded targets. > > > > - The Dead Ringer now: > > > > - Reduces cloak to 40% when uncloaking early. > > > > - Has a 35% cap on the amount of cloak it can gain from an ammo > > > pack. > > > > - Has a quieter de-cloak sound. > > > > > > > > Changes / Fixes: > > > > - Fixed a performance & stability issue with AMD processors. > > > > - Improved the stability of the game server -> item backend > connection > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
