Thanks Surajit ji for all the efforts. I had posed the query because mericarps of the posted plant are not well-pointed as I remember to have seen for *A. indicum*, but my observation does not take care of possibility of variances in pointedness. Was disappointed to find almost no picture of *A. pannosum*'s fruit on internet - thus not sure whether the fruit is globose as described OR seemingly globose.
Regards. Dinesh On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:17 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Dinesh Ji, the problem is FoP recognizes both *muticum*, with > different author citation, and *pannosum*. Roxburgh's plant has fruit > both top and bottom rounded. It appears to me the top of your mericarps are > not exactly rounded. But at the same time I also understand that what > Roxburgh recorded in writing may be a bit different with the real thing. > > Moreover, Roxburgh's plant is not the only species which is synonymous > with *A. pannosum*. > > So, finally I never reject probability. I just don't know. > > Regards > surajit > > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Yes, agreed Surajit ji with all your points. >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 9:05 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear Garg Sir, >>> >>> - I have seen only one *Abutilon* and that is *indicum* >>> - After going through lit. and efloras I think clear pictures of >>> fruits, stipules, etc are necessary to id species level of this genus >>> which >>> I miss in this thread >>> - Flora of India, vol3 (BSI) recognizes *pannosum* but doesn't >>> recognize *muticum*; >>> >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/abutilon> >>> *;* or are they synonymous? >>> - Roxburgh's *Sida tomentosa* is synonymous with *Abutilon muticum* G. >>> Don of FBI, maybe synonymous with *S. pannosum >>> <http://plants.jstor.org/stable/10.5555/al.ap.specimen.k000659530>* >>> >>> I do not think the fruit description of Roxburgh's plant, in FI, matches >>> with the fruit picture in this thread. Neither the same FI description >>> matches with other posts identified in our database. >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:39 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Forwarding again for validation please. >>>> >>>> efi page on Abutilon pannosum >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/abutilon/abutilon-pannosum> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 20 February 2015 at 18:57 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:216131] along KSH 34 between Malamba & Gundolli >>>> :: Abutilon pannosum FOR VALIDATION :: DVFEB47/80 >>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: along KSH34 Malamba & Gundolli] >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F15962692663&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzekde88pkb7cBA1u24KlyW8HEVjHQ>along >>>> Karnataka State Highway No. 34 ... between Malamba & Gundolli >>>> *Date*: 15 OCT 2011 ... *Altitude*: about 640 m asl >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *Abutilon* ¿ *pannosum* ? ... (family: Malvaceae)Dear friends, >>>> Shrub, about 1 m height; flower about 30 mm across, fruit about 15 mm >>>> across. >>>> While it looks like the mericarps are not beaked, not sure whether they >>>> are round enough to look like the ones at Western Desert Flora >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwesterndesertflora.geolab.cz%2Fherbarium%2FAbutilon_pannosum.php&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzegB3MlG4goXH1KytNL30j4SsU-MA> >>>> . >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> [image: Abutilon ¿ pannosum ?] >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6257258369&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzff8a48gkP9wnYhW3ArQe4fwYW4Ag> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: Abutilon ¿ pannosum ?] >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6257260471&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfQFAPWqZZIl4HVxm53LZIJcMJXEg> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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