However, I am not satisfied with the id as *Torenia godefroyi* or *Torenia lindernioides *(with restricted range in Western Ghats and Cambodia). What about other observations from other areas at Lindernia crustacea <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/12/lindernia-crustacea/> like SK 3258 24 December 2021 <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/xoQAkxPsgTg> Lindernia sp. (1) from Hooghly 15/8/12 SK-1 <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/Huo2W3tvDdU> Lindernia sp. (2) from Hooghly 15/8/12 SK-2 <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/pAcb_GQuLTE> Lindernia crustacea (L.) F.Muel collected from Kamrup district (Metro), Assam <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/KU3HUbO0DnM> Scrophulariaceae Fortnight: Lindernia crustacea from Kaithal- NS 29 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/lSYABMJR-XI> Scrophulariaceae Fortnight: a guest on Lindernia crustacea (L.) F.Muell. : sk03 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/aobL5G85kmA> PM1 22-09-2017 Id confirmation from chandigarh. Is it Lindernia crustacea? <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/z5RCCxai7Uc> Torenia thouarsii (Cham. & Schltdl.) Kuntze (accepted name) ?? <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/zMNeXJM7Bdc> for id. request. BRS 522 <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/eWWg23fxCqM> Torenia crustacea (L.) Cham. & Schltdl. <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/PAKGAtwmPGI> Validation of Lindernia <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/umPk1Q5X8-8> Herb for ID from Jim-Corbett Uttarakhand-GS10032022-2 <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/anOKvYwqBec>
In view of the above observations, I feel, we follow the broader circumspection with all these observations as Lindernia crustacea <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/12/lindernia-crustacea/> (as we are following now). In view Dinesh ji's plant and other similar observations from Western Ghats may also be retained as Lindernia crustacea <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/12/lindernia-crustacea/> only. On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 at 22:00, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: > Just to point out that POWO treats* Torenia godefroyi* and* Torenia > lindernioides *as distinct species, with *Torenia godefroyi* confied to > Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, and *Torenia lindernioides *confined > to the Western Ghats. > Tabish > ------------------------------------------- > <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net > The waterhole of flower lovers > > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 11:35 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think Sunoj ji may finally resolve this issue being an author of >> 'Re-establishment >> of the overlooked species Torenia godefroyi (Linderniaceae), and notes on >> the identity of T. lindernioides >> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312558634_Re-establishment_of_the_overlooked_species_Torenia_godefroyi_Linderniaceae_and_notes_on_the_identity_of_T_lindernioides>' >> (I am unable to get a hand on it from the net) >> Thanks a lot, Tabish ji, for the inputs. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Tabish <[email protected]> >> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 at 09:29 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:434054] Re: Scrophulariaceae fortnight :: >> Lindernia crustacea at Andheri :: DV06 >> To: eFloraofIndia <[email protected]> >> >> >> This plant, with distinctly winged calyx, should be *Torenia >> lindernioides* which is endemic to Western Ghats. Please have a look at >> the attached paper. It is closely similar to *Torenia crustacea* (Syn: >> *Lindernia >> crustacea*) which has unwinged calyx. >> According to the paper: >> "Torenia lindernioides has a distinctly winged calyx which completely >> encloses the mature capsule. The capsule is elongated, lelliptic in outline >> and narrowed at the top. Lindernia crustacea, however, has sepals that are, >> at most, slightly thickened in the middle and never invest the capsule >> completely." >> Tabish >> >> On Friday, August 16, 2013 at 5:12:18 AM UTC+5:30 Dinesh Valke wrote: >> >>> Scrophulariaceae fortnight >>> dog flower family >>> *Lindernia crustacea* (L.) F. Muell. ... also placed in: Linderniaceae >>> Plantaginaceae Veronicaceae >>> at MIDC Andheri on 24 AUG 07 >>> >>> [image: Urikusa (in Japanese)] >>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F1224907860%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc7DxIHJEZQx1njUX_pZEE1_tb5uA> >>> >>> [image: Fua Lanumoana (in Samoan)] >>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F1224061657%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdyHN9liuka8KQKrl3l8qM__GKBrg> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/373ac98b-df9a-4a8f-8799-d45ab3d6eb4bn%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/373ac98b-df9a-4a8f-8799-d45ab3d6eb4bn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFBiayo0HsmdFfcew7%2B7C52By-vy5z2KL8P8XPPGh4nQuA%40mail.gmail.com.
