Usha Di, Found two docs at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21982793 and at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3326891/.
Thank you and Regards, surajit On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:09 AM, ushadi Micromini < [email protected]> wrote: > *So,,, dear all: > tell me please which is really the BHUMIAMALAKI of AYURVEDIC MEDICINE? > > books mention and so does wiki that it is P. niruri... > > > confused to the max... > > > Usha di * > > On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:33 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Vijayasankar Ji, >> >> Thank you again and again for another *Phyllanthus*. >> >> Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Vijayasankar >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Rekha ji's pictures are of *Phyllanthus urinaria*, I think. The fruit >>> surface is tuberculate (smooth in P. amarus), sepals 6 (5 in P. amarus). Of >>> course leaf features are also different here. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Vijayasankar Raman >>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>> University of Mississippi >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Rekha Shahane >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> The mail bounced so photo attached >>>> and pl. confirm the ID >>>> Its P. amarus or a different sp.? >>>> Regards, >>>> -Rekha Shahane. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Rekha Shahane >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am forwarding a mail with three photograph and believe its the same >>>>> plant >>>>> and if so, one can see flowers and fruits together in one of the photo. >>>>> Regards, >>>>> -Rekha. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 10:55 AM, ushadi Micromini < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Me too >>>>>> Am impressed >>>>>> knew you dont give up >>>>>> good for you, Surajit >>>>>> good for us >>>>>> usha di >>>>>> PS AND THANKS to Vijaya for the initial impetus >>>>>> >>>>>> ========== >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 7:26 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Good morning/evening Vijayasankar Ji, >>>>>>> Thank you very very very much for the endless support. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Vijayasankar < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the ID confirmation Surajit ji. >>>>>>>> I really appreciate your keen interest and devotion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>>>>> University of Mississippi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:01 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> SORRY VIJAY SIR, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I did a big mistake, took wrong interpretation of the term "terete >>>>>>>>> stem". >>>>>>>>> This is *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. >>>>>>>>> Attaching some more new pics taken today (12/10/12) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:40 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Many many thanks Vijayasankar Ji. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I regret that the doc is not accessible to common people. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Vijayasankar < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The following paper includes keys and descriptions of both the >>>>>>>>>>> species: >>>>>>>>>>> A Revision of Phyllanthus (Euphorbiaceae) in the Continental >>>>>>>>>>> United States <http://www.jstor.org/stable/2805721> >>>>>>>>>>> Grady L. Webster >>>>>>>>>>> Brittonia<http://www.jstor.org/action/showPublication?journalCode=brittonia>Vol. >>>>>>>>>>> 22, No. 1 (Jan. - Mar., 1970), pp. 44-76 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>>>>>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>>>>>>>> University of Mississippi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:54 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you once again Vijayasankar Ji. >>>>>>>>>>>> Documents are saying that *P. niruri* L. is not found in India. >>>>>>>>>>>> If i could find some morphological description of *P. niruri* >>>>>>>>>>>> L.! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Vijayasankar < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Surajit ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please check this paper: >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://journal-phytology.com/index.php/phyto/article/view/6070/3109 >>>>>>>>>>>>> It answers most of your questions. As you can see, leaf >>>>>>>>>>>>> character is important, but also features of flowers, fruits etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>> to be >>>>>>>>>>>>> considered for correct diagnosis. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I still think your plant is Phyllanthus amarus. But, let's >>>>>>>>>>>>> hear from others too... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please also see the poster published by FRLHT...available at >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>>>>>>>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>>>>>>>>>> University of Mississippi >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Vijayasankar Ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was digging a bit more on *P. niruri* L. and *P. amarus* Schum. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> & Thonn. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found a number of papers on medicinal properties of *P. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> niruri* L., published by CSIR, some of those are recent >>>>>>>>>>>>>> publications - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/4539 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. http://www.csircentral.net/index.php/record/view/18194 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. without using L. or Linn. - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/3400 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *P. niruri* L. in other sites - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.namahjournal.com/doc/Actual/Phyllanthus-vol-19-iss-3.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. http://www.pharmainfo.net/reviews/phyllanthus-niruri >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.slideshare.net/AlexanderDecker/11protective-effect-of-phyllanthus-niruri-on-dmba-croton-oil-mediated-carcinogenic-response-and-oxidative-damage-in-accordance-to-histopathological-studies-in-skin-of-mice >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the same time i kept in my mind what i learned in group >>>>>>>>>>>>>> threads, that *P. niruri* L. doesn't occur in India, even >>>>>>>>>>>>>> though it had been mentioned in "THE USEFUL PLANTS OF INDIA" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( CSIR publication ). So, i searched more on *Phyllanthus* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> species >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Google directed me to an ebook, *"Phyllanthus Species: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific Evaluation and Medicinal Applications" (By >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ramadasan Kuttan, K. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> B. Harikumar)* that supports the claim. The same book >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also describes *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy a few words -* *".... leaf blade 5-9 x 2-4 mm, oblong, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtuse at both ends...." = page 26 & 27 = >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://books.google.co.in/books?id=ordQCHqPy9gC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=Phyllanthus+niruri+L+species+description&source=bl&ots=i1nPFFuQLy&sig=k06juMKogPFUEK3Puul3nL99k84&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yfF2UOuPB8yqrAfw0IGoCA&ved=0CFIQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Phyllanthus%20niruri%20L%20species%20description&f=false >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Another document describes *Phyllanthus spp.* in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tiruchirappalli district. I copy a few words on *Phyllanthus >>>>>>>>>>>>>> amarus* Schum. & Thonn. = ".... stem terete, hispidulous, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... leaf tip rounded..." = >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://journal-phytology.com/index.php/phyto/article/viewFile/6070/3109 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. in - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. FoC = Leaves distichous; stipules linear or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> linear-lanceolate, green; petioles ca. 0.5 mm; leaf blade >>>>>>>>>>>>>> oblong or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> elliptic-oblong, 3-8 × 2-4.5 mm, membranous or thinly papery, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> base >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rounded, apex obtuse or rounded and often apiculate = >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. FoP = Similar to Phyllanthus fraternus, but completely >>>>>>>>>>>>>> glabrous, foliage-leaves smaller (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm), oblong= >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. *Phyllanthus fraternus* Webster in FoP = leaf-blades >>>>>>>>>>>>>> elliptic-oblong to elliptic-oblanceolate, 5-13 x 1.5-5 mm, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtuse >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or rounded at apex and base = >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whom should i follow for the ID of my species? I think my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> species doesn't have terete stem, not sure about apices of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> leaves. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:55 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good morning/evening Vijayasankar Ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, if it is *Phyllanthus amarus* then FoC and FoP both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are not much reliable source, specially for leaf sizes, more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evident in my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grass & *Sesbania* uploads. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Vijayasankar < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice pictures Surajit ji! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your visit to the pond might have surprised the young >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Varanus! Please tell him/her you were clicking *Phyllanthus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amarus. * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> University of Mississippi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:30 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Searched for *Phyllanthus niruri* L. and found :- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ".... There is no confusion regarding *P. niruri >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't occur in India*. *All plants which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier called in that name are belong to (and to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> called as) P. amarus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *, as we all know...." = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/uRuNBBRR_3k/discussion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. *P. amarus* in FoP = ".... Similar to Phyllanthus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fraternus, but completely glabrous, *foliage-leaves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smaller (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm)*, oblong...." = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. *P. amarus* in FoC = " ...... leaf blade oblong or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elliptic-oblong, *3-8 × 2-4.5 mm*.........." = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. " ............ *P. fraternus has 6 tepals* and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elliptic/obovate leaves will have a narrowed base....... " >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/1x7grsFDm6Q/discussion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. *P. fraternus* in FoP = "........ leaf-blades >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elliptic-oblong to elliptic-oblanceolate, *5-13 x >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5-5 mm*..." = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. ".... *Phyllanthus fraternus (syn: P. niruri >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hook.f. (non Linn.), quite distinct from P. amarus in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> larger leaves, 6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perianth, 6-10 lobed disc*............ " = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/vFK2qO-sz18/discussion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. another group post = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/xpGcxOGpkJI/discussion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. another = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/49hDzECkogE/discussion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9. yet another = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/c_6anbyYgoc/discussion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. In FoI = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Gulf%20Leaf-Flower.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Species : UNKNOWN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit & Habitat : wild herb, both branched and unbranched, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very common on roadside, waste places; height about 1 foot or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more; leaves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = 10mm x 5 mm (image no. DSCN1627.jpg); tepals = 5 (image no. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DSCN1635.jpg) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date : 8-Sept-12, 2.00 p.m. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Place : Hooghly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as i was recording these images a young water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitor <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_monitor> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for me! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you & Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Usha di >>>>>> =========== >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > Usha di > =========== > > --
