Eddie Haskell from Leave It to Beaver? :-) Respectfully, Liz, Data Base Administrator, Methods Engineering
Kit Plummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/09/2008 03:36 PM Please respond to jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org To jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org cc Subject Re: [jug-discussion] JRuby vs. Groovy (was: Any News on the Holiday Party?) Darkside? You know Haskell? On Dec 9, 2008, at 3:06 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ah well... not the first time I've stumbled into a darkside. > ;-) > > Respectfully, > Liz, Data Base Administrator, > Methods Engineering > > > > > Todd Ellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 12/09/2008 02:55 PM > Please respond to > jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org > > To > jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org > cc > Subject > Re: [jug-discussion] JRuby vs. Groovy (was: Any News on the Holiday > Party?) > > > > > > Ah ha! Victory is mine! She takes her first step towards the Groovy > darkside without even knowing it. None of this Ruby rebel scum for > her! When you can snatch the closure from my hand DBA, then your > training will be complete. > ;) > -Todd > Happy Holidays! > > ******************************************************************* > Todd R. Ellermann > VP of Engineering VirtualTourist.com > > Founder Webagogy.com > Researcher Betterwebapp.com > > > Personal: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 805-850-8044 cell > ******************************************************************* > > > Does getting an ASU MBA with existing UofA BSCE make me a SunCat? or > a WildDevil? > Go Cats! ...said with a Devilish grin ;) > > > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org > Cc: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org > Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 1:47:22 PM > Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] JRuby vs. Groovy (was: Any News on the > Holiday Party?) > > > heheh and my language of choice... java. > > Thanks all. It'll be good to put your faces to your names at the > party. > > Respectfully, > Liz, Data Base Administrator, > Methods Engineering > > > > "Chad Woolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 12/09/2008 02:11 PM > Please respond to > jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org > > > To > jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org > cc > Subject > Re: [jug-discussion] JRuby vs. Groovy (was: Any News on the Holiday > Party?) > > > > > > > > It was mentioned in the previous thread that this is not a web app. > > As for JRuby vs. pure Ruby. However, this is the JUG list, and the > question on JRuby performance was my chance to be a troll with a > point, especially since there's been Groovy vs. Ruby debates on here > before ;) > > Depending on the target deployment environment (windows? lots of > users? Intranet?) JRuby might still be a better choice, since the JVM > is ubiquitous (and native Ruby on Windows still sucks). > > -- Chad > > PS: Don't forget the JOrganic JJelly with a side of JJuice... > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:59 PM, nlesiecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > If I was from-scratching a website, I'd definitely look at JRuby > on JRails. > > With JPeanut sauce on my JTofu. > > > > Nick > > > > On Dec 9, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Chad Woolley wrote: > > > >> Here's the latest performance numbers on JRuby: > >> > >> > >> http://antoniocangiano.com/2008/12/09/the-great-ruby-shootout-december-2008/ > >> > >> Summary - JRuby is doing very well; came in second after Ruby > 1.9; and > >> compatibility is good and getting better all the time. > >> > >> Ok, troll time: > >> > >> My opinion - definitely try JRuby over Groovy. You get all the > >> benefits of the Java ecosystem: native calls to java libraries, JVM > >> execution, JIT compilation, packaging, war/ear-based deployment, > etc, > >> etc. Most importantly, however, you get a language that was > designed > >> to "make people happy". Most Rubyists - especially those with > >> experience in other languages - agree it achieves this goal well. > >> > >> As for Groovy, I still say it is an attempt to make a static > language > >> (Java) appear dynamic. They've done a decent job, but when you > really > >> compare it to using native Ruby, the warts and sharp edges poke > >> through. > >> > >> The only argument I see in favor of Groovy is integration with the > >> Java ecosystem, which JRuby effectively negates. Conversely, all > >> language or syntax preference or prejudice aside, the Ruby > ecosystem > >> is also very rich (rubygems and github), and you cannot take > advantage > >> of this with Groovy. Why not be able to choose from the best of > both > >> worlds? > >> > >> Java is dead, long live the JVM. JRuby FTW in the enterprise. > >> > >> -- Chad > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Todd Ellermann > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> One more side note. JRuby runs on the JVM as well, and for a > while was > >>> out > >>> performing the native Ruby interpreters. Not sure if that is > still true. > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This email (and all attachments) is for the sole use of the intended > recipient(s) and may contain privileged and/or proprietary > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > distribution is prohibited. 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