well..... not from the get-go. one eye with a set of rods and cones, little photopigments on outer membranes reacting to light, isomerizing, creating a graded potential, sending the signal to the ganglia and down the optic nerve to the brain.
fun, huh? Respectfully, Liz, Data Base Administrator, Methods Engineering Kit Plummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/09/2008 04:01 PM Please respond to jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org To jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org cc Subject Re: [jug-discussion] JRuby vs. Groovy (was: Any News on the Holiday Party?) I'm guessing you'll have performance requirements - that'll require taking advantage of multi-cores, or parallelization? If so, try that Google search again. On Dec 9, 2008, at 3:45 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > Eddie Haskell from Leave It to Beaver? > :-) > > Respectfully, > Liz, Data Base Administrator, > Methods Engineering > > > > > Kit Plummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 12/09/2008 03:36 PM > Please respond to > jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org > > To > jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org > cc > Subject > Re: [jug-discussion] JRuby vs. Groovy (was: Any News on the Holiday > Party?) > > > > > > Darkside? You know Haskell? > > On Dec 9, 2008, at 3:06 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > ah well... not the first time I've stumbled into a darkside. > > ;-) > > > > Respectfully, > > Liz, Data Base Administrator, > > Methods Engineering > > > > > > > > > > Todd Ellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 12/09/2008 02:55 PM > > Please respond to > > jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org > > > > To > > jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org > > cc > > Subject > > Re: [jug-discussion] JRuby vs. Groovy (was: Any News on the Holiday > > Party?) > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah ha! Victory is mine! She takes her first step towards the Groovy > > darkside without even knowing it. None of this Ruby rebel scum for > > her! When you can snatch the closure from my hand DBA, then your > > training will be complete. > > ;) > > -Todd > > Happy Holidays! > > > > ******************************************************************* > > Todd R. Ellermann > > VP of Engineering VirtualTourist.com > > > > Founder Webagogy.com > > Researcher Betterwebapp.com > > > > > > Personal: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 805-850-8044 cell > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > > Does getting an ASU MBA with existing UofA BSCE make me a SunCat? or > > a WildDevil? > > Go Cats! ...said with a Devilish grin ;) > > > > > > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org > > Cc: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org > > Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 1:47:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] JRuby vs. Groovy (was: Any News on the > > Holiday Party?) > > > > > > heheh and my language of choice... java. > > > > Thanks all. It'll be good to put your faces to your names at the > > party. > > > > Respectfully, > > Liz, Data Base Administrator, > > Methods Engineering > > > > > > > > "Chad Woolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 12/09/2008 02:11 PM > > Please respond to > > jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org > > > > > > To > > jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org > > cc > > Subject > > Re: [jug-discussion] JRuby vs. Groovy (was: Any News on the Holiday > > Party?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was mentioned in the previous thread that this is not a web app. > > > > As for JRuby vs. pure Ruby. However, this is the JUG list, and the > > question on JRuby performance was my chance to be a troll with a > > point, especially since there's been Groovy vs. Ruby debates on here > > before ;) > > > > Depending on the target deployment environment (windows? lots of > > users? Intranet?) JRuby might still be a better choice, since the > JVM > > is ubiquitous (and native Ruby on Windows still sucks). > > > > -- Chad > > > > PS: Don't forget the JOrganic JJelly with a side of JJuice... > > > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:59 PM, nlesiecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > If I was from-scratching a website, I'd definitely look at JRuby > > on JRails. > > > With JPeanut sauce on my JTofu. > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > On Dec 9, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Chad Woolley wrote: > > > > > >> Here's the latest performance numbers on JRuby: > > >> > > >> > > >> http://antoniocangiano.com/2008/12/09/the-great-ruby-shootout-december-2008/ > > >> > > >> Summary - JRuby is doing very well; came in second after Ruby > > 1.9; and > > >> compatibility is good and getting better all the time. > > >> > > >> Ok, troll time: > > >> > > >> My opinion - definitely try JRuby over Groovy. You get all the > > >> benefits of the Java ecosystem: native calls to java libraries, > JVM > > >> execution, JIT compilation, packaging, war/ear-based deployment, > > etc, > > >> etc. Most importantly, however, you get a language that was > > designed > > >> to "make people happy". Most Rubyists - especially those with > > >> experience in other languages - agree it achieves this goal well. > > >> > > >> As for Groovy, I still say it is an attempt to make a static > > language > > >> (Java) appear dynamic. They've done a decent job, but when you > > really > > >> compare it to using native Ruby, the warts and sharp edges poke > > >> through. > > >> > > >> The only argument I see in favor of Groovy is integration with > the > > >> Java ecosystem, which JRuby effectively negates. Conversely, all > > >> language or syntax preference or prejudice aside, the Ruby > > ecosystem > > >> is also very rich (rubygems and github), and you cannot take > > advantage > > >> of this with Groovy. Why not be able to choose from the best of > > both > > >> worlds? > > >> > > >> Java is dead, long live the JVM. JRuby FTW in the enterprise. > > >> > > >> -- Chad > > >> > > >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Todd Ellermann > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> One more side note. JRuby runs on the JVM as well, and for a > > while was > > >>> out > > >>> performing the native Ruby interpreters. 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