I have now looked through the Hindi pages on Beta.wikiversity myself. At first I just wanted to look at a random sample of pages, but then I noticed that there are only "69 pages (including categories, templates, talk pages, and redirects)" (cf. catanalysis). I don't know if this number was higher previously. However, that is IMHO way too little for a wiki to be approved. I also don't see any pages that look like courses, which after all, is what Wikiversity is for.
Therefore I agree with the starting point of this thread, that Hindi Wikiversity should not be created, and the approval taken back. 2017-07-19 1:09 GMT+02:00 MF-Warburg <[email protected]>: > Yes, agreed. Though the question here is different, it is about whether > the test-project as it currently is is in a state that is appropriate for > approval. > > > 2017-07-18 12:51 GMT+02:00 Jon Harald Søby <[email protected]>: > >> (Late reply, sorry.) >> >> While I may have doubts about the merits of Wikiversity myself, I don't >> think it's within the scope of the Language Committee to deny the creation >> of projects based on those merits. We should only focus on whether the >> community for the relevant language edition of a project is healthy enough >> for it to become a separate project, without consideration for the >> individual committee members' feelings about the project as a whole. >> >> 2017-07-04 18:12 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>: >> >>> Hoi, >>> Yes, that is the politically correct answer. The question asked by >>> several is what is Wikiversity good for. Is it actually used? >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> On 4 July 2017 at 18:06, Satdeep Gill <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I do think that the community will improve content as the time >>>> progresses. The community has been working hard on translation as well. >>>> >>>> But I do see some pages which are not written well and contain machine >>>> translations. Such as >>>> >>>> <http://goog_1512637911> >>>> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/%E0%A4%90%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8 >>>> B%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B8_%E0%A4%87%E0% >>>> A4%82%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%B0% >>>> E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97 >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Satdeep Gill >>>> >>>> Strategy Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation >>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Track_B#SGill_.28WMF.29> >>>> Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians >>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_Wikimedians> >>>> Treasurer, Affiliations Committee >>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee> >>>> Member, Language Committee >>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee> >>>> >>>> On 25 June 2017 at 01:08, Jay prakash <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> [https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Computer_graphics/2013-2014 >>>>> /Page_footer] >>>>> See Here. >>>>> >>>>> On 6/25/17, Mahir Morshed <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > Well, the part in [brackets] was "the lack of effort to even >>>>> localize the >>>>> > comments in the code samples" and I did mention that it was being >>>>> addressed >>>>> > slowly. My apologies for failing to provide a direct link to an >>>>> example. >>>>> > >>>>> > I also now see that the email address is in fact yours. I am not >>>>> sure that >>>>> > there is any precedent elsewhere for such byline templates on other >>>>> > Wikimedia projects. >>>>> > >>>>> > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Jay prakash <[email protected] >>>>> > >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> You are showing it that you will not see all those links which I >>>>> have >>>>> >> cleaned like it [https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/कंप्यूटर >>>>> >> ग्राफिक्स/2013-14/जीओजीएल-टेम्पलेट]. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On 6/25/17, Mahir Morshed <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> > To piggyback on what Justin is saying (and also via Phabricator: >>>>> >> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168765#3376191): >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > I am not a Hindi speaker, but I can at least discern Devanagari >>>>> text >>>>> >> > and >>>>> >> > the English loanwords in it. Justin's first link is to >>>>> >> > "Category:Intelligence" with subcategory "Artificial >>>>> intelligence". His >>>>> >> > second link (Computer Programming/IDE/Visual Basic .NET/...) >>>>> bears only >>>>> >> > a >>>>> >> > link to a Japanese online IDE. His third link (Computer >>>>> >> > Graphics/2013-2014/"Page Foot", a page footer which is transcluded >>>>> >> > elsewhere) has an email address prefixed with a link to >>>>> >> > @Jayprakash12345 >>>>> >> > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Jayprakash12345/>'s >>>>> >> userpage--maybe it >>>>> >> > is his own email address? >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > The problems of most pages only consisting of source code is >>>>> indeed >>>>> >> > inherited from the English Wikiversity courses to which the pages >>>>> are >>>>> >> > linked. Nevertheless, from seeing at least [the lack of effort to >>>>> even >>>>> >> > localize the comments in the code samples], and perhaps from >>>>> seeing the >>>>> >> > lack of something more substantial in the way of content revolving >>>>> >> > around >>>>> >> > those code samples, and perhaps more so from Jayprakash12345 >>>>> being the >>>>> >> only >>>>> >> > consistent contributor going back at least a month, I must thus >>>>> agree >>>>> >> with >>>>> >> > his assessment that opening hiwikiversity would be a disaster. My >>>>> >> personal >>>>> >> > opinion is that other Hindi projects (such as hiwikisource and >>>>> >> hiwikiquote) >>>>> >> > could be populated more easily and meaningfully at this point, >>>>> but I >>>>> >> would >>>>> >> > digress to elaborate on that and the whole process of site >>>>> requests >>>>> >> > more >>>>> >> > generally here. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > (Edits since the original comment was made: It appears judging >>>>> from >>>>> >> > https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinke >>>>> d/Category: >>>>> >> HI >>>>> >> > that 1) the subcategory "Artificial intelligence" has been >>>>> deleted and >>>>> >> > 2) >>>>> >> > the part in [brackets] above is being addressed slowly.) >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Justin Anthony Knapp >>>>> >> > <[email protected] >>>>> >> >> wrote: >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >> Via Phabricator (https://phabricator.wikimedia >>>>> .org/T168765#3376166): >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Is this really ready? I don't read Hindi but the main category >>>>> has 84 >>>>> >> >> subcategories and 25 are empty (many only have subcategories >>>>> which are >>>>> >> >> themselves empty, such as https://beta.wikiversity.org/ >>>>> >> >> wiki/Category:इंटेलिजेंस) There are 578 pieces of content, many >>>>> of >>>>> >> >> which >>>>> >> >> are just one or two lines, such as https://beta.wikiversity.org/ >>>>> >> >> wiki/कंप्यूटर_प्रोग्रामिंग/IDE/विजुअल_बेसिक_.नेट/Online/Free or >>>>> >> >> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/कंप्यूटर_ग्राफिक्स/2013-20 >>>>> 14/पेज_फ़ुट >>>>> >> >> which is mostly someone's personal email address. Remove >>>>> categories >>>>> >> >> and >>>>> >> >> erroneously-categorized userpages and that becomes 490. This >>>>> includes >>>>> >> >> almost 100 pages which are part of some Linux code such as >>>>> >> >> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/लिनक्स/linux-0.01.tar/boot >>>>> /boot.s. >>>>> >> >> Remove *those* and it's 401 which includes purely cosmetic >>>>> templates >>>>> >> >> and >>>>> >> >> pages like >>>>> >> >> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Engineering/box-footer. >>>>> >> >> The actual amount of content seems like something that one person >>>>> >> >> could >>>>> >> >> make over a long weekend. How is this supposed to be a live >>>>> project? >>>>> >> This >>>>> >> >> seems like a misstep. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Creating a new project is a big responsibility and with 500 >>>>> pages in >>>>> >> five >>>>> >> >> and a half years? And most of them are either copy-pasted Linux >>>>> code >>>>> >> >> or >>>>> >> >> one >>>>> >> >> line long? That is not a thriving community. This is a recipe for >>>>> >> >> disaster. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> --JAK >>>>> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> "[Icarus] glances up and is caught, wondrously tunneling into >>>>> that hot >>>>> >> >> eye. Who cares that he fell back to the sea?" >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Viva Western Sahara, viva West Papua >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> >> Langcom mailing list >>>>> >> >> [email protected] >>>>> >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > -- >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> Langcom mailing list >>>>> >> [email protected] >>>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Yours sincerely, >>>>> > Mahir Morshed >>>>> > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign >>>>> > B.S. 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