I plan to review the content over the weekend and let us move forward with the task next week.
Regards Satdeep Gill Strategy Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians Treasurer, Affiliations Committee Member, Language Committee > On 21-Jul-2017, at 7:03 AM, Michael Everson <[email protected]> wrote: > > This should move forward. > >> On 20 Jul 2017, at 22:04, MF-Warburg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Indeed we should, this is already taking embarrasingly long. Do any other >> members plan to review the test-wiki content? >> >> 2017-07-20 3:58 GMT+02:00 Jay prakash <[email protected]>: >> This is my humble Request to langcom. We can hurry in Discussion. Because >> this taked already long time after creation of task. >> >> On 19-Jul-2017 4:20 pm, "Jay prakash" <[email protected]> wrote: >> Dear Langcom Members, >> >> As of Hindi points of view the content which already have >> are very usefull. There are no site on internet which provide this type of >> information. We already made well written content like Principals of >> Management and Aerospace Engineering etc. Where the content is much better >> than English Wikiversity. Because where we describe whats do student after >> 10+2. You can verify it with third party source. The partialy failure of Eng >> Wikiversity is that because the many sites host learning content in english. >> But Hindi Wikiversity will be the only place where native get free knowledge >> in thier language. I am not say you believe me. You can confirm it with >> third party. >> >> With the respect of time. Hindi Wikiversity will be milestone. Thanks >> >> On 19-Jul-2017 10:20 am, "Gerard Meijssen" <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hoi, >> People want us to consider the deletion of projects... not happy about it. >> The consequence for me is that we also look at Wikiversity as a project. Is >> it viable, is it used. What experiences exist with English Wikipedia ? >> Thanks, >> GerardM >> >> On 19 July 2017 at 03:35, MF-Warburg <[email protected]> wrote: >> StevenJ81 informed me that most of the pages are only in >> <https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Category:%E0%A4%B5%E0%A5%88%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95_HI>, >> for whatever reason (>400). So I looked at them as well. >> >> With this "full picture", it looks much better. Not stellar, but well... the >> project is active and continues to be edited (and, I guess, improved). >> Now my opinion is that we should carry on with the approval. >> >> 2017-07-19 1:21 GMT+02:00 MF-Warburg <[email protected]>: >> I have now looked through the Hindi pages on Beta.wikiversity myself. At >> first I just wanted to look at a random sample of pages, but then I noticed >> that there are only "69 pages (including categories, templates, talk pages, >> and redirects)" (cf. catanalysis). I don't know if this number was higher >> previously. >> However, that is IMHO way too little for a wiki to be approved. I also don't >> see any pages that look like courses, which after all, is what Wikiversity >> is for. >> >> Therefore I agree with the starting point of this thread, that Hindi >> Wikiversity should not be created, and the approval taken back. >> >> 2017-07-19 1:09 GMT+02:00 MF-Warburg <[email protected]>: >> Yes, agreed. Though the question here is different, it is about whether the >> test-project as it currently is is in a state that is appropriate for >> approval. >> >> >> 2017-07-18 12:51 GMT+02:00 Jon Harald Søby <[email protected]>: >> (Late reply, sorry.) >> >> While I may have doubts about the merits of Wikiversity myself, I don't >> think it's within the scope of the Language Committee to deny the creation >> of projects based on those merits. We should only focus on whether the >> community for the relevant language edition of a project is healthy enough >> for it to become a separate project, without consideration for the >> individual committee members' feelings about the project as a whole. >> >> 2017-07-04 18:12 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>: >> Hoi, >> Yes, that is the politically correct answer. The question asked by several >> is what is Wikiversity good for. Is it actually used? >> Thanks, >> GerardM >> >> On 4 July 2017 at 18:06, Satdeep Gill <[email protected]> wrote: >> I do think that the community will improve content as the time progresses. >> The community has been working hard on translation as well. >> >> But I do see some pages which are not written well and contain machine >> translations. Such as >> >> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/%E0%A4%90%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B8_%E0%A4%87%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97 >> >> Regards >> Satdeep Gill >> >> Strategy Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation >> Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians >> Treasurer, Affiliations Committee >> Member, Language Committee >> >> On 25 June 2017 at 01:08, Jay prakash <[email protected]> wrote: >> [https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Computer_graphics/2013-2014/Page_footer] >> See Here. >> >>> On 6/25/17, Mahir Morshed <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Well, the part in [brackets] was "the lack of effort to even localize the >>> comments in the code samples" and I did mention that it was being addressed >>> slowly. My apologies for failing to provide a direct link to an example. >>> >>> I also now see that the email address is in fact yours. I am not sure that >>> there is any precedent elsewhere for such byline templates on other >>> Wikimedia projects. >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Jay prakash <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> You are showing it that you will not see all those links which I have >>>> cleaned like it [https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/कंप्यूटर >>>> ग्राफिक्स/2013-14/जीओजीएल-टेम्पलेट]. >>>> >>>>> On 6/25/17, Mahir Morshed <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> To piggyback on what Justin is saying (and also via Phabricator: >>>>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168765#3376191): >>>>> >>>>> I am not a Hindi speaker, but I can at least discern Devanagari text >>>>> and >>>>> the English loanwords in it. Justin's first link is to >>>>> "Category:Intelligence" with subcategory "Artificial intelligence". His >>>>> second link (Computer Programming/IDE/Visual Basic .NET/...) bears only >>>>> a >>>>> link to a Japanese online IDE. His third link (Computer >>>>> Graphics/2013-2014/"Page Foot", a page footer which is transcluded >>>>> elsewhere) has an email address prefixed with a link to >>>>> @Jayprakash12345 >>>>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Jayprakash12345/>'s >>>> userpage--maybe it >>>>> is his own email address? >>>>> >>>>> The problems of most pages only consisting of source code is indeed >>>>> inherited from the English Wikiversity courses to which the pages are >>>>> linked. Nevertheless, from seeing at least [the lack of effort to even >>>>> localize the comments in the code samples], and perhaps from seeing the >>>>> lack of something more substantial in the way of content revolving >>>>> around >>>>> those code samples, and perhaps more so from Jayprakash12345 being the >>>> only >>>>> consistent contributor going back at least a month, I must thus agree >>>> with >>>>> his assessment that opening hiwikiversity would be a disaster. My >>>> personal >>>>> opinion is that other Hindi projects (such as hiwikisource and >>>> hiwikiquote) >>>>> could be populated more easily and meaningfully at this point, but I >>>> would >>>>> digress to elaborate on that and the whole process of site requests >>>>> more >>>>> generally here. >>>>> >>>>> (Edits since the original comment was made: It appears judging from >>>>> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category: >>>> HI >>>>> that 1) the subcategory "Artificial intelligence" has been deleted and >>>>> 2) >>>>> the part in [brackets] above is being addressed slowly.) >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Justin Anthony Knapp >>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Via Phabricator (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168765#3376166): >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this really ready? I don't read Hindi but the main category has 84 >>>>>> subcategories and 25 are empty (many only have subcategories which are >>>>>> themselves empty, such as https://beta.wikiversity.org/ >>>>>> wiki/Category:इंटेलिजेंस) There are 578 pieces of content, many of >>>>>> which >>>>>> are just one or two lines, such as https://beta.wikiversity.org/ >>>>>> wiki/कंप्यूटर_प्रोग्रामिंग/IDE/विजुअल_बेसिक_.नेट/Online/Free or >>>>>> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/कंप्यूटर_ग्राफिक्स/2013-2014/पेज_फ़ुट >>>>>> which is mostly someone's personal email address. Remove categories >>>>>> and >>>>>> erroneously-categorized userpages and that becomes 490. This includes >>>>>> almost 100 pages which are part of some Linux code such as >>>>>> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/लिनक्स/linux-0.01.tar/boot/boot.s. >>>>>> Remove *those* and it's 401 which includes purely cosmetic templates >>>>>> and >>>>>> pages like >>>>>> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Engineering/box-footer. >>>>>> The actual amount of content seems like something that one person >>>>>> could >>>>>> make over a long weekend. How is this supposed to be a live project? >>>> This >>>>>> seems like a misstep. >>>>>> >>>>>> Creating a new project is a big responsibility and with 500 pages in >>>> five >>>>>> and a half years? And most of them are either copy-pasted Linux code >>>>>> or >>>>>> one >>>>>> line long? That is not a thriving community. This is a recipe for >>>>>> disaster. >>>>>> >>>>>> --JAK >>>>>> -- >>>>>> "[Icarus] glances up and is caught, wondrously tunneling into that hot >>>>>> eye. Who cares that he fell back to the sea?" >>>>>> >>>>>> Viva Western Sahara, viva West Papua >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Langcom mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Langcom mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Yours sincerely, >>> Mahir Morshed >>> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign >>> B.S. 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