I have reviewed some content on the project. It is fair enough and I think we can proceed with the creation of the project.
Regards Satdeep Gill Strategy Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Track_B#SGill_.28WMF.29> Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_Wikimedians> Treasurer, Affiliations Committee <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee> Member, Language Committee <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee> On 21 July 2017 at 07:46, Satdeep Gill <[email protected]> wrote: > I plan to review the content over the weekend and let us move forward with > the task next week. > > Regards > Satdeep Gill > > Strategy Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Track_B#SGill_.28WMF.29> > Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_Wikimedians> > Treasurer, Affiliations Committee > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee> > Member, Language Committee > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee> > > On 21-Jul-2017, at 7:03 AM, Michael Everson <[email protected]> wrote: > > This should move forward. > > On 20 Jul 2017, at 22:04, MF-Warburg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Indeed we should, this is already taking embarrasingly long. Do any other > members plan to review the test-wiki content? > > > 2017-07-20 3:58 GMT+02:00 Jay prakash <[email protected]>: > > This is my humble Request to langcom. We can hurry in Discussion. Because > this taked already long time after creation of task. > > > On 19-Jul-2017 4:20 pm, "Jay prakash" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Langcom Members, > > > As of Hindi points of view the content which already > have are very usefull. There are no site on internet which provide this > type of information. We already made well written content like Principals > of Management and Aerospace Engineering etc. Where the content is much > better than English Wikiversity. Because where we describe whats do student > after 10+2. You can verify it with third party source. The partialy failure > of Eng Wikiversity is that because the many sites host learning content in > english. But Hindi Wikiversity will be the only place where native get free > knowledge in thier language. I am not say you believe me. You can confirm > it with third party. > > > With the respect of time. Hindi Wikiversity will be milestone. Thanks > > > On 19-Jul-2017 10:20 am, "Gerard Meijssen" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hoi, > > People want us to consider the deletion of projects... not happy about it. > The consequence for me is that we also look at Wikiversity as a project. Is > it viable, is it used. What experiences exist with English Wikipedia ? > > Thanks, > > GerardM > > > On 19 July 2017 at 03:35, MF-Warburg <[email protected]> wrote: > > StevenJ81 informed me that most of the pages are only in < > https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Category:%E0%A4%B5%E0%A5% > 88%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95_HI>, for > whatever reason (>400). So I looked at them as well. > > > With this "full picture", it looks much better. Not stellar, but well... > the project is active and continues to be edited (and, I guess, improved). > > Now my opinion is that we should carry on with the approval. > > > 2017-07-19 1:21 GMT+02:00 MF-Warburg <[email protected]>: > > I have now looked through the Hindi pages on Beta.wikiversity myself. At > first I just wanted to look at a random sample of pages, but then I noticed > that there are only "69 pages (including categories, templates, talk pages, > and redirects)" (cf. catanalysis). I don't know if this number was higher > previously. > > However, that is IMHO way too little for a wiki to be approved. I also > don't see any pages that look like courses, which after all, is what > Wikiversity is for. > > > Therefore I agree with the starting point of this thread, that Hindi > Wikiversity should not be created, and the approval taken back. > > > 2017-07-19 1:09 GMT+02:00 MF-Warburg <[email protected]>: > > Yes, agreed. Though the question here is different, it is about whether > the test-project as it currently is is in a state that is appropriate for > approval. > > > > 2017-07-18 12:51 GMT+02:00 Jon Harald Søby <[email protected]>: > > (Late reply, sorry.) > > > While I may have doubts about the merits of Wikiversity myself, I don't > think it's within the scope of the Language Committee to deny the creation > of projects based on those merits. We should only focus on whether the > community for the relevant language edition of a project is healthy enough > for it to become a separate project, without consideration for the > individual committee members' feelings about the project as a whole. > > > 2017-07-04 18:12 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>: > > Hoi, > > Yes, that is the politically correct answer. The question asked by several > is what is Wikiversity good for. Is it actually used? > > Thanks, > > GerardM > > > On 4 July 2017 at 18:06, Satdeep Gill <[email protected]> wrote: > > I do think that the community will improve content as the time progresses. > The community has been working hard on translation as well. > > > But I do see some pages which are not written well and contain machine > translations. Such as > > > https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/%E0%A4%90%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5% > 8B%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B8_%E0%A4%87% > E0%A4%82%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4% > B0%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97 > > > Regards > > Satdeep Gill > > > Strategy Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation > > Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians > > Treasurer, Affiliations Committee > > Member, Language Committee > > > On 25 June 2017 at 01:08, Jay prakash <[email protected]> wrote: > > [https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Computer_graphics/2013-2014/Page_footer] > > See Here. > > > On 6/25/17, Mahir Morshed <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, the part in [brackets] was "the lack of effort to even localize the > > comments in the code samples" and I did mention that it was being addressed > > slowly. My apologies for failing to provide a direct link to an example. > > > I also now see that the email address is in fact yours. I am not sure that > > there is any precedent elsewhere for such byline templates on other > > Wikimedia projects. > > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Jay prakash <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > You are showing it that you will not see all those links which I have > > cleaned like it [https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/कंप्यूटर > > ग्राफिक्स/2013-14/जीओजीएल-टेम्पलेट]. > > > On 6/25/17, Mahir Morshed <[email protected]> wrote: > > To piggyback on what Justin is saying (and also via Phabricator: > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168765#3376191): > > > I am not a Hindi speaker, but I can at least discern Devanagari text > > and > > the English loanwords in it. Justin's first link is to > > "Category:Intelligence" with subcategory "Artificial intelligence". His > > second link (Computer Programming/IDE/Visual Basic .NET/...) bears only > > a > > link to a Japanese online IDE. His third link (Computer > > Graphics/2013-2014/"Page Foot", a page footer which is transcluded > > elsewhere) has an email address prefixed with a link to > > @Jayprakash12345 > > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Jayprakash12345/>'s > > userpage--maybe it > > is his own email address? > > > The problems of most pages only consisting of source code is indeed > > inherited from the English Wikiversity courses to which the pages are > > linked. Nevertheless, from seeing at least [the lack of effort to even > > localize the comments in the code samples], and perhaps from seeing the > > lack of something more substantial in the way of content revolving > > around > > those code samples, and perhaps more so from Jayprakash12345 being the > > only > > consistent contributor going back at least a month, I must thus agree > > with > > his assessment that opening hiwikiversity would be a disaster. My > > personal > > opinion is that other Hindi projects (such as hiwikisource and > > hiwikiquote) > > could be populated more easily and meaningfully at this point, but I > > would > > digress to elaborate on that and the whole process of site requests > > more > > generally here. > > > (Edits since the original comment was made: It appears judging from > > https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category: > > HI > > that 1) the subcategory "Artificial intelligence" has been deleted and > > 2) > > the part in [brackets] above is being addressed slowly.) > > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Justin Anthony Knapp > > <[email protected] > > wrote: > > > Via Phabricator (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168765#3376166): > > > Is this really ready? I don't read Hindi but the main category has 84 > > subcategories and 25 are empty (many only have subcategories which are > > themselves empty, such as https://beta.wikiversity.org/ > > wiki/Category:इंटेलिजेंस) There are 578 pieces of content, many of > > which > > are just one or two lines, such as https://beta.wikiversity.org/ > > wiki/कंप्यूटर_प्रोग्रामिंग/IDE/विजुअल_बेसिक_.नेट/Online/Free or > > https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/कंप्यूटर_ग्राफिक्स/2013-2014/पेज_फ़ुट > > which is mostly someone's personal email address. Remove categories > > and > > erroneously-categorized userpages and that becomes 490. This includes > > almost 100 pages which are part of some Linux code such as > > https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/लिनक्स/linux-0.01.tar/boot/boot.s. > > Remove *those* and it's 401 which includes purely cosmetic templates > > and > > pages like > > https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Engineering/box-footer. > > The actual amount of content seems like something that one person > > could > > make over a long weekend. How is this supposed to be a live project? > > This > > seems like a misstep. > > > Creating a new project is a big responsibility and with 500 pages in > > five > > and a half years? And most of them are either copy-pasted Linux code > > or > > one > > line long? That is not a thriving community. This is a recipe for > > disaster. > > > --JAK > > -- > > "[Icarus] glances up and is caught, wondrously tunneling into that hot > > eye. Who cares that he fell back to the sea?" > > > Viva Western Sahara, viva West Papua > > > _______________________________________________ > > Langcom mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > > > > > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Langcom mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > > > > > > -- > > Yours sincerely, > > Mahir Morshed > > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign > > B.S. 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