This should move forward. > On 20 Jul 2017, at 22:04, MF-Warburg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Indeed we should, this is already taking embarrasingly long. Do any other > members plan to review the test-wiki content? > > 2017-07-20 3:58 GMT+02:00 Jay prakash <[email protected]>: > This is my humble Request to langcom. We can hurry in Discussion. Because > this taked already long time after creation of task. > > On 19-Jul-2017 4:20 pm, "Jay prakash" <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Langcom Members, > > As of Hindi points of view the content which already have > are very usefull. There are no site on internet which provide this type of > information. We already made well written content like Principals of > Management and Aerospace Engineering etc. Where the content is much better > than English Wikiversity. Because where we describe whats do student after > 10+2. You can verify it with third party source. The partialy failure of Eng > Wikiversity is that because the many sites host learning content in english. > But Hindi Wikiversity will be the only place where native get free knowledge > in thier language. I am not say you believe me. You can confirm it with third > party. > > With the respect of time. Hindi Wikiversity will be milestone. Thanks > > On 19-Jul-2017 10:20 am, "Gerard Meijssen" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hoi, > People want us to consider the deletion of projects... not happy about it. > The consequence for me is that we also look at Wikiversity as a project. Is > it viable, is it used. What experiences exist with English Wikipedia ? > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 19 July 2017 at 03:35, MF-Warburg <[email protected]> wrote: > StevenJ81 informed me that most of the pages are only in > <https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Category:%E0%A4%B5%E0%A5%88%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95_HI>, > for whatever reason (>400). So I looked at them as well. > > With this "full picture", it looks much better. Not stellar, but well... the > project is active and continues to be edited (and, I guess, improved). > Now my opinion is that we should carry on with the approval. > > 2017-07-19 1:21 GMT+02:00 MF-Warburg <[email protected]>: > I have now looked through the Hindi pages on Beta.wikiversity myself. At > first I just wanted to look at a random sample of pages, but then I noticed > that there are only "69 pages (including categories, templates, talk pages, > and redirects)" (cf. catanalysis). I don't know if this number was higher > previously. > However, that is IMHO way too little for a wiki to be approved. I also don't > see any pages that look like courses, which after all, is what Wikiversity is > for. > > Therefore I agree with the starting point of this thread, that Hindi > Wikiversity should not be created, and the approval taken back. > > 2017-07-19 1:09 GMT+02:00 MF-Warburg <[email protected]>: > Yes, agreed. Though the question here is different, it is about whether the > test-project as it currently is is in a state that is appropriate for > approval. > > > 2017-07-18 12:51 GMT+02:00 Jon Harald Søby <[email protected]>: > (Late reply, sorry.) > > While I may have doubts about the merits of Wikiversity myself, I don't think > it's within the scope of the Language Committee to deny the creation of > projects based on those merits. We should only focus on whether the community > for the relevant language edition of a project is healthy enough for it to > become a separate project, without consideration for the individual committee > members' feelings about the project as a whole. > > 2017-07-04 18:12 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>: > Hoi, > Yes, that is the politically correct answer. The question asked by several is > what is Wikiversity good for. Is it actually used? > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 4 July 2017 at 18:06, Satdeep Gill <[email protected]> wrote: > I do think that the community will improve content as the time progresses. > The community has been working hard on translation as well. > > But I do see some pages which are not written well and contain machine > translations. Such as > > https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/%E0%A4%90%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B8_%E0%A4%87%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97 > > Regards > Satdeep Gill > > Strategy Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation > Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians > Treasurer, Affiliations Committee > Member, Language Committee > > On 25 June 2017 at 01:08, Jay prakash <[email protected]> wrote: > [https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Computer_graphics/2013-2014/Page_footer] > See Here. > > On 6/25/17, Mahir Morshed <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, the part in [brackets] was "the lack of effort to even localize the > > comments in the code samples" and I did mention that it was being addressed > > slowly. My apologies for failing to provide a direct link to an example. > > > > I also now see that the email address is in fact yours. I am not sure that > > there is any precedent elsewhere for such byline templates on other > > Wikimedia projects. > > > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Jay prakash <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> You are showing it that you will not see all those links which I have > >> cleaned like it [https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/कंप्यूटर > >> ग्राफिक्स/2013-14/जीओजीएल-टेम्पलेट]. > >> > >> On 6/25/17, Mahir Morshed <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > To piggyback on what Justin is saying (and also via Phabricator: > >> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168765#3376191): > >> > > >> > I am not a Hindi speaker, but I can at least discern Devanagari text > >> > and > >> > the English loanwords in it. Justin's first link is to > >> > "Category:Intelligence" with subcategory "Artificial intelligence". His > >> > second link (Computer Programming/IDE/Visual Basic .NET/...) bears only > >> > a > >> > link to a Japanese online IDE. His third link (Computer > >> > Graphics/2013-2014/"Page Foot", a page footer which is transcluded > >> > elsewhere) has an email address prefixed with a link to > >> > @Jayprakash12345 > >> > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Jayprakash12345/>'s > >> userpage--maybe it > >> > is his own email address? > >> > > >> > The problems of most pages only consisting of source code is indeed > >> > inherited from the English Wikiversity courses to which the pages are > >> > linked. Nevertheless, from seeing at least [the lack of effort to even > >> > localize the comments in the code samples], and perhaps from seeing the > >> > lack of something more substantial in the way of content revolving > >> > around > >> > those code samples, and perhaps more so from Jayprakash12345 being the > >> only > >> > consistent contributor going back at least a month, I must thus agree > >> with > >> > his assessment that opening hiwikiversity would be a disaster. My > >> personal > >> > opinion is that other Hindi projects (such as hiwikisource and > >> hiwikiquote) > >> > could be populated more easily and meaningfully at this point, but I > >> would > >> > digress to elaborate on that and the whole process of site requests > >> > more > >> > generally here. > >> > > >> > (Edits since the original comment was made: It appears judging from > >> > https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category: > >> HI > >> > that 1) the subcategory "Artificial intelligence" has been deleted and > >> > 2) > >> > the part in [brackets] above is being addressed slowly.) > >> > > >> > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Justin Anthony Knapp > >> > <[email protected] > >> >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Via Phabricator (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168765#3376166): > >> >> > >> >> Is this really ready? I don't read Hindi but the main category has 84 > >> >> subcategories and 25 are empty (many only have subcategories which are > >> >> themselves empty, such as https://beta.wikiversity.org/ > >> >> wiki/Category:इंटेलिजेंस) There are 578 pieces of content, many of > >> >> which > >> >> are just one or two lines, such as https://beta.wikiversity.org/ > >> >> wiki/कंप्यूटर_प्रोग्रामिंग/IDE/विजुअल_बेसिक_.नेट/Online/Free or > >> >> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/कंप्यूटर_ग्राफिक्स/2013-2014/पेज_फ़ुट > >> >> which is mostly someone's personal email address. Remove categories > >> >> and > >> >> erroneously-categorized userpages and that becomes 490. This includes > >> >> almost 100 pages which are part of some Linux code such as > >> >> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/लिनक्स/linux-0.01.tar/boot/boot.s. > >> >> Remove *those* and it's 401 which includes purely cosmetic templates > >> >> and > >> >> pages like > >> >> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Engineering/box-footer. > >> >> The actual amount of content seems like something that one person > >> >> could > >> >> make over a long weekend. How is this supposed to be a live project? > >> This > >> >> seems like a misstep. > >> >> > >> >> Creating a new project is a big responsibility and with 500 pages in > >> five > >> >> and a half years? And most of them are either copy-pasted Linux code > >> >> or > >> >> one > >> >> line long? That is not a thriving community. This is a recipe for > >> >> disaster. > >> >> > >> >> --JAK > >> >> -- > >> >> "[Icarus] glances up and is caught, wondrously tunneling into that hot > >> >> eye. Who cares that he fell back to the sea?" > >> >> > >> >> Viva Western Sahara, viva West Papua > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Langcom mailing list > >> >> [email protected] > >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Langcom mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Yours sincerely, > > Mahir Morshed > > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign > > B.S. 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