This is my humble Request to langcom. We can hurry in Discussion. Because this taked already long time after creation of task.
On 19-Jul-2017 4:20 pm, "Jay prakash" <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Langcom Members, > > As of Hindi points of view the content which already > have are very usefull. There are no site on internet which provide this > type of information. We already made well written content like Principals > of Management and Aerospace Engineering etc. Where the content is much > better than English Wikiversity. Because where we describe whats do student > after 10+2. You can verify it with third party source. The partialy failure > of Eng Wikiversity is that because the many sites host learning content in > english. But Hindi Wikiversity will be the only place where native get free > knowledge in thier language. I am not say you believe me. You can confirm > it with third party. > > With the respect of time. Hindi Wikiversity will be milestone. Thanks > > On 19-Jul-2017 10:20 am, "Gerard Meijssen" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hoi, >> People want us to consider the deletion of projects... not happy about >> it. The consequence for me is that we also look at Wikiversity as a >> project. Is it viable, is it used. What experiences exist with English >> Wikipedia ? >> Thanks, >> GerardM >> >> On 19 July 2017 at 03:35, MF-Warburg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> StevenJ81 informed me that most of the pages are only in < >>> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Category:%E0%A4%B5%E0%A5% >>> 88%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95_HI>, for >>> whatever reason (>400). So I looked at them as well. >>> >>> With this "full picture", it looks much better. Not stellar, but well... >>> the project is active and continues to be edited (and, I guess, improved). >>> Now my opinion is that we should carry on with the approval. >>> >>> 2017-07-19 1:21 GMT+02:00 MF-Warburg <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> I have now looked through the Hindi pages on Beta.wikiversity myself. >>>> At first I just wanted to look at a random sample of pages, but then I >>>> noticed that there are only "69 pages (including categories, templates, >>>> talk pages, and redirects)" (cf. catanalysis). I don't know if this number >>>> was higher previously. >>>> However, that is IMHO way too little for a wiki to be approved. I also >>>> don't see any pages that look like courses, which after all, is what >>>> Wikiversity is for. >>>> >>>> Therefore I agree with the starting point of this thread, that Hindi >>>> Wikiversity should not be created, and the approval taken back. >>>> >>>> 2017-07-19 1:09 GMT+02:00 MF-Warburg <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> Yes, agreed. Though the question here is different, it is about >>>>> whether the test-project as it currently is is in a state that is >>>>> appropriate for approval. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2017-07-18 12:51 GMT+02:00 Jon Harald Søby <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> (Late reply, sorry.) >>>>>> >>>>>> While I may have doubts about the merits of Wikiversity myself, I >>>>>> don't think it's within the scope of the Language Committee to deny the >>>>>> creation of projects based on those merits. We should only focus on >>>>>> whether >>>>>> the community for the relevant language edition of a project is healthy >>>>>> enough for it to become a separate project, without consideration for the >>>>>> individual committee members' feelings about the project as a whole. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2017-07-04 18:12 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected] >>>>>> >: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hoi, >>>>>>> Yes, that is the politically correct answer. The question asked by >>>>>>> several is what is Wikiversity good for. Is it actually used? >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> GerardM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4 July 2017 at 18:06, Satdeep Gill <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do think that the community will improve content as the time >>>>>>>> progresses. The community has been working hard on translation as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But I do see some pages which are not written well and contain >>>>>>>> machine translations. Such as >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <http://goog_1512637911> >>>>>>>> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/%E0%A4%90%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8 >>>>>>>> B%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B8_%E0%A4%87%E0% >>>>>>>> A4%82%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%B0% >>>>>>>> E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Satdeep Gill >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Strategy Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation >>>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Track_B#SGill_.28WMF.29> >>>>>>>> Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians >>>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_Wikimedians> >>>>>>>> Treasurer, Affiliations Committee >>>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee> >>>>>>>> Member, Language Committee >>>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 25 June 2017 at 01:08, Jay prakash <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Computer_graphics/2013-2014 >>>>>>>>> /Page_footer] >>>>>>>>> See Here. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 6/25/17, Mahir Morshed <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > Well, the part in [brackets] was "the lack of effort to even >>>>>>>>> localize the >>>>>>>>> > comments in the code samples" and I did mention that it was >>>>>>>>> being addressed >>>>>>>>> > slowly. My apologies for failing to provide a direct link to an >>>>>>>>> example. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > I also now see that the email address is in fact yours. I am not >>>>>>>>> sure that >>>>>>>>> > there is any precedent elsewhere for such byline templates on >>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>> > Wikimedia projects. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Jay prakash < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> You are showing it that you will not see all those links which >>>>>>>>> I have >>>>>>>>> >> cleaned like it [https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/कंप्यूटर >>>>>>>>> >> ग्राफिक्स/2013-14/जीओजीएल-टेम्पलेट]. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> On 6/25/17, Mahir Morshed <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >> > To piggyback on what Justin is saying (and also via >>>>>>>>> Phabricator: >>>>>>>>> >> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168765#3376191): >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > I am not a Hindi speaker, but I can at least discern >>>>>>>>> Devanagari text >>>>>>>>> >> > and >>>>>>>>> >> > the English loanwords in it. Justin's first link is to >>>>>>>>> >> > "Category:Intelligence" with subcategory "Artificial >>>>>>>>> intelligence". His >>>>>>>>> >> > second link (Computer Programming/IDE/Visual Basic .NET/...) >>>>>>>>> bears only >>>>>>>>> >> > a >>>>>>>>> >> > link to a Japanese online IDE. His third link (Computer >>>>>>>>> >> > Graphics/2013-2014/"Page Foot", a page footer which is >>>>>>>>> transcluded >>>>>>>>> >> > elsewhere) has an email address prefixed with a link to >>>>>>>>> >> > @Jayprakash12345 >>>>>>>>> >> > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Jayprakash12345/>'s >>>>>>>>> >> userpage--maybe it >>>>>>>>> >> > is his own email address? >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > The problems of most pages only consisting of source code is >>>>>>>>> indeed >>>>>>>>> >> > inherited from the English Wikiversity courses to which the >>>>>>>>> pages are >>>>>>>>> >> > linked. Nevertheless, from seeing at least [the lack of >>>>>>>>> effort to even >>>>>>>>> >> > localize the comments in the code samples], and perhaps from >>>>>>>>> seeing the >>>>>>>>> >> > lack of something more substantial in the way of content >>>>>>>>> revolving >>>>>>>>> >> > around >>>>>>>>> >> > those code samples, and perhaps more so from Jayprakash12345 >>>>>>>>> being the >>>>>>>>> >> only >>>>>>>>> >> > consistent contributor going back at least a month, I must >>>>>>>>> thus agree >>>>>>>>> >> with >>>>>>>>> >> > his assessment that opening hiwikiversity would be a >>>>>>>>> disaster. My >>>>>>>>> >> personal >>>>>>>>> >> > opinion is that other Hindi projects (such as hiwikisource and >>>>>>>>> >> hiwikiquote) >>>>>>>>> >> > could be populated more easily and meaningfully at this >>>>>>>>> point, but I >>>>>>>>> >> would >>>>>>>>> >> > digress to elaborate on that and the whole process of site >>>>>>>>> requests >>>>>>>>> >> > more >>>>>>>>> >> > generally here. >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > (Edits since the original comment was made: It appears >>>>>>>>> judging from >>>>>>>>> >> > https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinke >>>>>>>>> d/Category: >>>>>>>>> >> HI >>>>>>>>> >> > that 1) the subcategory "Artificial intelligence" has been >>>>>>>>> deleted and >>>>>>>>> >> > 2) >>>>>>>>> >> > the part in [brackets] above is being addressed slowly.) >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Justin Anthony Knapp >>>>>>>>> >> > <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> >> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> Via Phabricator (https://phabricator.wikimedia >>>>>>>>> .org/T168765#3376166): >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> Is this really ready? I don't read Hindi but the main >>>>>>>>> category has 84 >>>>>>>>> >> >> subcategories and 25 are empty (many only have subcategories >>>>>>>>> which are >>>>>>>>> >> >> themselves empty, such as https://beta.wikiversity.org/ >>>>>>>>> >> >> wiki/Category:इंटेलिजेंस) There are 578 pieces of content, >>>>>>>>> many of >>>>>>>>> >> >> which >>>>>>>>> >> >> are just one or two lines, such as >>>>>>>>> https://beta.wikiversity.org/ >>>>>>>>> >> >> wiki/कंप्यूटर_प्रोग्रामिंग/IDE/विजुअल_बेसिक_.नेट/Online/Free >>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>> >> >> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/कंप्यूटर_ग्राफिक्स/2013-20 >>>>>>>>> 14/पेज_फ़ुट >>>>>>>>> >> >> which is mostly someone's personal email address. Remove >>>>>>>>> categories >>>>>>>>> >> >> and >>>>>>>>> >> >> erroneously-categorized userpages and that becomes 490. This >>>>>>>>> includes >>>>>>>>> >> >> almost 100 pages which are part of some Linux code such as >>>>>>>>> >> >> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/लिनक्स/linux-0.01.tar/boot >>>>>>>>> /boot.s. >>>>>>>>> >> >> Remove *those* and it's 401 which includes purely cosmetic >>>>>>>>> templates >>>>>>>>> >> >> and >>>>>>>>> >> >> pages like >>>>>>>>> >> >> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Engineering/box-foo >>>>>>>>> ter. >>>>>>>>> >> >> The actual amount of content seems like something that one >>>>>>>>> person >>>>>>>>> >> >> could >>>>>>>>> >> >> make over a long weekend. How is this supposed to be a live >>>>>>>>> project? >>>>>>>>> >> This >>>>>>>>> >> >> seems like a misstep. >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> Creating a new project is a big responsibility and with 500 >>>>>>>>> pages in >>>>>>>>> >> five >>>>>>>>> >> >> and a half years? And most of them are either copy-pasted >>>>>>>>> Linux code >>>>>>>>> >> >> or >>>>>>>>> >> >> one >>>>>>>>> >> >> line long? That is not a thriving community. This is a >>>>>>>>> recipe for >>>>>>>>> >> >> disaster. >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> --JAK >>>>>>>>> >> >> -- >>>>>>>>> >> >> "[Icarus] glances up and is caught, wondrously tunneling >>>>>>>>> into that hot >>>>>>>>> >> >> eye. Who cares that he fell back to the sea?" >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> Viva Western Sahara, viva West Papua >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >> >> Langcom mailing list >>>>>>>>> >> >> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > -- >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >> Langcom mailing list >>>>>>>>> >> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, >>>>>>>>> > Mahir Morshed >>>>>>>>> > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign >>>>>>>>> > B.S. 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