I suggest stoping arguing about this.

I believe that:

A) I was too short on my previous message saying
"registered" and not taking into account the fact it might be read as
"registered to the course".
B) Of course what I meant is "registered to be
an installee".
C) Even if we hold a closed event, this still promotes
Linux. This is better than having no event at all! We didn't planned on
having this insta-party, as we don't have enough strength to push Linux
each and every semester. So having any event is better than none!
D) As I
said before (and will probably say many times in the future):  Haifux
meets at the Technion, becuase this is were a group of people started it
and got permission to use it's room. The perl club meets in Haifa
university, which is fine by me, and I never claim this is a "Haifa
university-only" thing, even if they will hold a closed to Haifa
University computer science course about "Programming using un-usable
lang." (please, no flames on that, thanks), I would still not consider it
a bad thing, as they did it.
E) Once you do it, do it your way. Don't like
my way, don't do it my way when you do it (motto).

Please, this thread make us all look like little kids.


On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Ez-Aton wrote:

> It has nothing to do with CS. It has to do with favouriting anyone. In this
> case, CS, on other cases, other faculties (like favouriting Architects into
> some gallery, etc.).
> If you study it, it can be either since you were able to get into it, it
> interests you, or you really love it. Those who come to this specific party
> are people from all over Haifa (well, the target audiance, at least) who want
> to install Linux on their system. Converting the Haifa Linux Club into an
> "Only Technion" group would prevent these people from having their computer
> installed, and will decrease the number of Linuxers in Haifa.
> As far as I know it, our goal (by saying our, I mean the Haifa Linux Club) is
> to increase the awareness to Linux in general, and to push towards as many
> Linux running computers as we can. Limiting this to a bunch of
> developers-to-be would negate the club's main theme, as I see it.
> This is worst case scenario. However, in our scenario, anyone could come and
> get his computer installed, but these students should be prioritized. I just
> wonder why.
>
> Ez.
>
> On Wednesday 05 March 2003 16:55, Adir Abraham wrote:
> > > On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Ez-Aton wrote:
> > > > I second this idea.
> > > > Favouritism is a bad thing, especially when there are no "better"
> > > > students than others. This whole method sux. When I used to be at the
> > > > Technion I saw it, and hated it. I still hate it.
> >
> > Please - don't manipulate it. You twist the original idea. We could make
> > it "local" and you would hate CS even more. It has nothing to do with
> > favouritism but making it (especially) for a specific course. We can help
> > them (and we do. We have just made the party wider), or not - the decision
> > is in our hands.
> >
> > > > Ez.
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday 05 March 2003 14:13, Orr Dunkelman wrote:
> > > > > My suggestion for the queueing algorithm is as follows:
> > > > >
> > > > > You register - your in.
> > > > > FCFS.
> > > > >
> > > > > You're not registered - you get to be installed only if there is an
> > > > > open slot (pan intended).
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 05, 2003, Adir Abraham wrote about "[Haifux] Some notes
> > > >
> > > > regarding the instaparty":
> > > > > > > The party is there for everybody in general, but the first
> > > > > > > priority will be given to OS course (234120), the 2nd to OS
> > > > > > > structures course (046209), 3rd for other students, and 4th for
> > > > > > > any other person, so please ask the person's name - before you
> > > > > > > install. There will be a list with names for OS course students,
> > > > > > > at least. Approximately, 200 people should arrive for both days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe I'm out-of-line questioning this decision (since I won't be
> > > > > > there to help, most likely), but why the 234120 favoritism? Why do
> > > > > > EE students have to come in 2nd place and Mathematics students
> > > > > > (like I was) come 3rd? How will installers who are not students, or
> > > > > > students of a non-CS department, feel of such discrimination of
> > > > > > their friends?
> > > > > > In anycase, I don't even understand which "queue algorithm" you
> > > > > > plan to apply to enforce this favoritism and how you plan to avoid
> > > > > > "starvation". I would strongly recommend that you rethink this
> > > > > > idea...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are other ways to throttle demand, by the way. You can ask
> > > > > > for advanced registration, and you can sell CDs for people to
> > > > > > install on their own instead of waiting in line.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > CDs in advance, and we might not. Don't count on it too much.
> > > > > > > Whatsoever - the students will get references so they will know
> > > > > > > where to download ISOs from.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do typical students (toar rishon, not in dorm) download ISOs?
> > > > > > It's not as easy as you might think. Not everybody has a high
> > > > > > bandwidth connection and (shudder) not everybody has a CD writer.
> > > > > > Anyway, the truth is that after a sucessful installation not
> > > > > > everybody will need the CD-ROMs, so maybe not having them will not
> > > > > > be such a huge loss.
>
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