On Tuesday 05 December 2006 12:10, Bryan J. Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 10:11 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Some basics:
> > 1. LPI was created by Linux professionals for the benefit of Linux
> > professionals.
> > 2. LPI's sole and only valid purpose is to serve the needs of their
> > *members*
> > 3. Members are individual people
> > Note that "industry" isn't in that list.
>
> Is this really the foundation of LPI?
> It is not to serve the industry too?
> Seems self-defeating if you ask me.

OK, the truth is that it's just more than individual professional 
members. From http://www.lpi.org/en/lpi/english/about_lpi

"About LPI
 LPI was formally incorporated as a Canadian non-profit in October 25, 
1999, and is headquartered near Toronto. We attempt to bring together 
an active and committed community with the companies and professionals 
who can fund and carry out LPI's initiatives. LPI is recognized 
worldwide as the premier organization advocating and assisting in the 
professional use of Linux, Open Source, and Free Software."

So it's both. But note that that means individuals and industry, not 
just industry.

And it would seem that only industry was consulted with this latest 
move, and the extent of how much consultation was done with whom has 
yet to be established.

> Then again, I'm at odds with the opinions of 97% of Linux consultants
> anyway.  Then again, I do more than just web-based services, and get
> dumb looks when I talk about various practices and implementations.
>
> But I'm willing to submit to not serving industry, only members, if
> that was what LPI was founded on.  I'm at odds with that view,
> especially given what industry considers is important, and what I
> normally see on Discuss labeled as "no one uses that," but I'll
> submit to it if it's the true foundation of LPI.

Best person to ask would be Evan, as he is one of the founders

[snip]

> > So I'll repeat what I said in my first mail in this thread: I
> > passed a series of exams and as a result LPI awarded me a cert that
> > is valid for 10 years.
> > And damnit, I insist that LPI honour that agreement to the full.
>
> Depends on how you look at it.
>
> They are honoring it by your certification being perpetual.
> But they now have an "ACTIVE/INACTIVE" status.

But even that is changing the meaning of the certificate I was given. 
It's making it into something other than passing an exam on things 
considered at the time not likely to change. Nothing anyone can do will 
change that exam and the fact that I passed it. In 2010 someone may 
look at it and see that it's 6 years old, and that person will have to 
decide for themselves if I suit their needs. I don't believe that it's 
right for LPI to make changes like that willy-nilly without involving 
me in the process somehow.

alan
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