1 agree, but censor a list is not really good either (most posts, such as this one) are not by developers
2 see the discussion on the developers list, suggestions like this have been thoroughly discussed > 13 maj 2018 kl. 14:16 skrev Bernt Lie <bernt....@usn.no>: > > 1: I agree, and I didn't say so. Essentially, my point is that developers can > not do that without compromising its OS agnostics. For various reasons, I use > Windows myself. And I have full respect for others making different choices. > I don't think the LyX list should be used for negative description of OSes > not used by oneself. > > 2: I see the point. If there are no negative side effects of upgrading to the > latest version of MikTeX, I'd do the following: > * Put in a LyX 2.3.0 installation link. > * Start by checking if the latest MikTeX version is installed. If yes, > proceed and install LyX 2.3.0 > * If not, explain why, and point to a link (youtube, or whatever) on how the > user can upgrade MikTeX and say "retry after you have upgraded MikTeX". > > Maybe a solution? > B > > Get Outlook for Android > > > > From: Anders Ekberg > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 13:33 > Subject: Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries > To: Bernt Lie > Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > > > 1 I haven’t seen any developer having any opinion on which os users are > running, they are simply stating what they are running in order to explain > the problem > > 2 the question is if you should update software (other than lyx) *without > asking the user* > > All the best! > Anders > > 13 maj 2018 kl. 10:48 skrev Bernt Lie <bernt....@usn.no>: > > > Why are people still using Windows? My firm gets along without Gates just > > fine. > > I use Windows, almost all of my colleagues use Windows. I know of 1 colleague > who uses Linux - he is very computer savvy, sets up his own system, hacks > LaTeX classes, and is not interested in using LyX -- he manages fine with his > own set-up. Many LaTeX users use alternative tools (TeXnicCenter, etc.). > -- > "Why are people still using Windows?" > > Well, fact is: our IT infrastructure is so tied up into Windows based tools, > that if the choice comes between Windows and LyX, it is LyX that will sink -- > our management thinks that Word is just fine... I have no problems with LyX > developers preferring another OS (ref: statement that none of the developers > use Windows). But if people associated with developing a software tool goes > public with opinions like “why on earth do people still use Windows”, that > would make it impossible to advocate the use of that software to Windows > users. > -- > Regarding the delay of LyX 2.3.0 for Windows -- v 2.2.3 serves me fine, so I > can wait. Still, the reason for the problem is not entirely clear to me. > * Yes, I understand that there is a problem with MikTeX in that MikTeX must > be updated for some technical reason. > * What is not clear is why it is a problem to update MikTeX. My MikTeX > console says<image001.jpg> > > Is there a newer MikTeX version? Is the problem that a (possible) newer > version will not be backwards compatible?If I can update MikTeX to the latest > version, install LyX v. 2.3.0, and face no problem of backwards > compatibility, then I don’t see any problem. > > BL > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> On Behalf Of Steve > Litt > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 7:49 > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries > > ROFLMAO, I ask myself this all the time, on multiple mailing lists. > > On the bright side, 90% of the heartache doesn't apply to me. > > SteveT > > > On Sat, 12 May 2018 20:03:09 -0700 > John White <j...@whitelawchartered.com> wrote: > > > Why are people still using Windows? My firm gets along without Gates > > just fine. > > > > John White > > > > On Friday, May 11, 2018 4:18:17 PM PDT Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > > > On 05/11/2018 03:37 PM, Jim Rockford wrote: > > > > In my 20+ years in the world of science, I have not known a single > > > > user of Lyx (~50 in total) who wasn't computer savvy. Why not > > > > just include a warning message that Lyx 2.3.0 may not function > > > > properly with MiKTeX distributions that have not been updated as > > > > recently as some specific date? > > > > > > That is more or less what was proposed by most of the development > > > team: A warning at start-up, that LyX was going to update MikTeX, > > > with an option for the user to abort the install if they wish. The > > > person responsible for the Windows packages refused to include such > > > a warning, and we did not think updating people's other software > > > without asking permission to do so was something we should do. So > > > that has left us in a bad position. > > > > > > We are working now to try to produce a Windows installer. > > > Unfortunately, none of the active development team use Windows, so > > > it is taking longer than it otherwise might. We'd certainly welcome > > > help from someone who does use Windows. > > > > > > Riki > > > > >
