As strange as it may appear today, I greatly appreciate cultures that study the process of dying. And, as contradictory as it may sound, I find that often such study allows for a greater appreciation and experience of living life itself.
On Feb 16, 9:26 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On 16 Feb, 15:12, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > We can't dismiss the possibility of out of body experience and the > > occurrence of other phenomena in the death experience, based upon > > death in the sleep mode. Coming from you Pat, I'm a bit dismayed as > > you should have the wherewithal to explain it better than I. > > Perhaps, if I had HAD a near-dying incident, I could; but I haven't. > There was a time, in the car accident last year, where I thought, > "this is it, I'm going to die", but I managed to avoid dying and, in > the process, avoided any close, personal knowledge about what happens > when one IS dying. Whilst I THOUGHT I was going to die, that > assumption proved to be incorrect. I've heard many people say, "Oh, > you'll know." But that's nothing more than speculation. Your coma > experience is FAR more revealing than their speculation. Perhaps we > WILL know. > > >However, > > I can relay a portion of my experience within a coma at which time I > > did know I was dying, so even in the subconscious mind there is > > "awareness" of death. Would you rather be awake watching yourself die > > or be a floating apparition watching yourself sleep? > > Is the death painful? That is, as long as the impending death is not > painful, I'd rather be as aware as possible. If there's lots of pain, > though, of course, I'd prefer to avoid it and if the 'floating method' > becomes available to me under those circumstances, I suspect I'd take > it. Like many things, life 'after', if there IS any, is probably as > natural as any other and worrying about 'what will I do if X' is > probably much akin to worrying about how one is going to breathe (or > get energy from the environment) after they've been born. There's a > perfectly natural solution available, and there's no need to worry > about it. > > > > >Aside from that > > we can't be sure that a person who dies sleeping was actually in fact > > sleeping by all outward appearances. One could be too weak to open > > the eyes but be very well aware of the people standing around and the > > impending cross over into the afterlife. > > > On Feb 16, 6:39 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 16 Feb, 01:17, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > What you say is true. There is no assurances, but I'd still be > > > > willing to bet my life on it being more comfortable or at the least > > > > aware. That is my greatest desire to be cogently aware of what's > > > > going on as it happens. I'd give up calm and peace for awareness. > > > > Though I must say your fur coat in hunting season approach has it's > > > > points. > > > > You and me both, Gruff. I want to know when it's coming. The LAST > > > thing I want to do is to die in my sleep: how will I know I'm dead? > > > Especially if there IS and aftertime. Of course, if there isn't, then > > > it won't matter; but I'd still prefer to know that the time is coming > > > so I can acknowledge the end of my life. But, whatever happens, it > > > will be that which is required to happen and my desires and > > > preferences are, most likely, irrelevant. > > > > > On Feb 15, 11:06 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Who is to say that your suicidal method will assure more comfort and > > > > > exclude any and all instances of panic, including but not limited to > > > > > subconscious awareness of self induced destruction leading to a > > > > > struggle out of simple survival instinct, which may no longer be > > > > > optional to the conscious mind after succumbing to the inducement. > > > > > The body may react violently to fight off the inducement and appear as > > > > > if in a state of turmoil or torment. We may imagine a drug induced > > > > > demise to be passive but can not identify with the subconscious as > > > > > what is exactly going on. This is a controversial subject concerning > > > > > the use of lethal injection in criminal death penalty cases. > > > > > Personally I would opt to wear a fur coat in a densely wooded area > > > > > during hunting season and make loud grunting sounds.- Hide quoted > > > > > text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
