Have fun figuring that one out.. how do you erase the deciet? -> Claim youre the cheata ! LOL
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:49 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > Edward Saul's the validity of Saul of Taurus teachings are predicated by > the miracle healing of Saul by God, making him a teacher chosen by God, the > problem the lies simply in the fact there are no poisonous snakes on Malta > which really creates a problem with the validity of Saul's teachings > especially when you have lie in the very foundation > Have fun figuring that one out.. how do you erase the deciet? > Allan > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:58 PM, pathfinder <[email protected]>wrote: > >> What lead you to think that I can type? >> Lazzy? >> Paul (Saul; Centurian)>...Imagine living in an environment where >> certain citizens are respected as gods, in a very real sense. However, >> The setting is the Age of the Sun god, Ra., Egyptian. ( Solar Cult)... >> The barbarrians had not evolved from the cult before it, but they had >> the basic principles. The principles had not changed, only the way >> they were applied. This means that there were people that could see. >> Wherefore, the story tells the way the vision was revealed and what >> was revealed about Paul. The serpent had varied interpretations from >> both mythologies: from representing wisdom, to the initator, the >> dragon, death, so on. If one make a biological examination, then take >> the results to the bigger picture of the prophecies, they will get >> faster results in that understanding, I think. I love the Hebrew >> language; the letters of the alphabet make statements before you can >> even put them together to make a word! I see that the seer was looking >> at Paul being the venom that would spread over the nations. The seer >> saw it, but it's not clear whether he understood it The remark about >> Paul being god could be related to the fact that he was centurian.... >> Wish I knew the language! >> On Nov 23, 11:18 am, pathfinder <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I'm looking at it. >> > >> > On Nov 22, 11:35 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > > You are funny Edward, I wonder if you know what is in your own heart >> much >> > > less what is in th heart of others. As for standards there are many >> > > standards, each person is their own judge. from your writings you >> claim to >> > > have the standards of christian dogma and doctrine which you want to >> shove >> > > off on everyone else. >> > > Edward Edward Edward if you are dealing with anyone you need to have >> your >> > > reservations tailored by caution and accuracy. You will find we tend >> not to >> > > attack people around here but rather ideas and concepts: and all >> ideas and >> > > concepts are free game if you are hung up on one be warned your >> feelings >> > > will be hurt simple because you take things to personally. >> > >> > > assessment? that one is easy read your very first document that you >> > > presented to this group. >> > > Testimony of Jesus Christ[2]--word document.doc >> > > I am to lazy to retype it. this is very typical of funnymentalist >> thinking. >> > > or what every you want to call them, this is according to you your >> great >> > > document of enlightenment. and according to them they are all on the >> narrow >> > > path and very few are on the path.. You do not know how many times I >> have >> > > been told that. What you see as narrow I see as broad and wide with >> many >> > > people on the path. Now as for the actual path you are on I really >> don't >> > > know and which is more I am really do not know,, and I do not know >> you well >> > > enough to make a judgment.. >> > >> > > When are you going to give your response to the poisonous snake biting >> Saul >> > > of Taurus on Malta? >> > >> > > Allan >> > >> > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:48 AM, pathfinder <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> > >> > > > The sellection of the children as an example was for what would >> seem, >> > > > obvious reason. By age 1 the nature seem fully functional and seem >> to >> > > > gain it's greatest outside influence around age 3. It had nothing to >> > > > do with anyone's physical abilities or >> > > > disabilities. >> > > > > One thing that consistantly prevails in most of your messages to >> > > > me , is that you come with two different standards; i.e., one for >> you >> > > > and one for me. By those for you, you are allowed to give your >> opinion >> > > > freely of me and my views. The one issued for me requires that my >> > > > opinion of you must be taylored by caution and >> > > > accurracy >> > > > >While I base my opinion of you on the contents that I see emitted >> > > > from the seat of your heart. In your statement "....your >> generalities >> > > > that you have arrived at from your teachings of christianity", show >> me >> > > > the ground for such an >> > > > assessment. >> > > > >What I prefer in socialization is that each individual maintain the >> > > > self-governed standards acceptable to each. One standard should be >> > > > that if I do it to you, you are justified in doing it to me. >> >I >> > > > see the road that I'm on to be narrow and few travelers theron, for >> > > > now. >> > >> > > > On Nov 22, 12:16 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > Edward one of the absolutes of the world is if you states if >> something is >> > > > an >> > > > > absolute you will be absolutely wrong. Don't put me in the >> catagory that >> > > > > you see yourself in. One thing is you do not know me or who I am >> until >> > > > you >> > > > > do leave me out of your generalities that you have arrived at from >> the >> > > > > teachings of christianity. >> > >> > > > > As far as children go, I have been fixed and have no intention of >> > > > bringing >> > > > > children into this world, and for good reasons, unlike you I have >> several >> > > > > great grand children. Your ideas are not original but concepts >> that have >> > > > > been passed on for many generation. >> > >> > > > > You have a long way to grow in spirituality a long way that is not >> easy. >> > > > > According to your beliefs the road to predation is wide and many >> chose >> > > > to >> > > > > follow it, from what I have read of your writing I would guess you >> are >> > > > > somewhere on that wide road. >> > > > > Allan >> > >> > > > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:25 PM, pathfinder < >> [email protected] >> > > > >wrote: >> > >> > > > > > I am saying that the heart of man aka your heart, my heart, and >> the >> > > > > > hearts of all are set towards survival, gratification, pleasure, >> > > > > > curiousity, thrill, etc. We must learn to bring the heart into >> > > > > > conformity. Out of an instinct to survive, gratify, enjoy or >> whatever >> > > > > > the caes may be, I, you, man, woman, we do what we think is best >> for >> > > > > > ourselves if we do not apply the laws or their principles. We >> must >> > > > > > learn to do what is wanting without violating those Laws. >> > > > > > Collectively, we assume or believe that no one knows our >> thoughts, >> > > > > > motives, actions, so we are less likely to develope the >> restraints >> > > > > > upon ourselves necessary to truely be respectable towards the >> rights, >> > > > > > needs, concerns, etc., of our neighbor, our fellow-human-being. >> As one >> > > > > > experiment along these lines, recording the results, what >> they'll find >> > > > > > they have would be their experience. Watch the children, Allan. >> At >> > > > > > least two children, 1-3 years of age. One toy. Stay close and be >> ready >> > > > > > to teach. But you will see the heart of man there. So, unless >> you came >> > > > > > into this world by some other means, your's would be included >> amongst >> > > > > > the Heart of Man. >> > >> > > > > > On Nov 21, 9:12 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > > Interesting Edward, so you are saying your heart aka the heart >> of man >> > > > is >> > > > > > > fully set upon doing evil ( contrary to the mystic laws)." >> Please >> > > > explain >> > > > > > to >> > > > > > > me why you are "fully set upon doing evil"? I hope you do not >> give a >> > > > > > bunch >> > > > > > > of bible quotes but rather in your own words. >> > > > > > > Allan >> > >> > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 5:29 AM, pathfinder < >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > > > >wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > I see sin as a concept that has been abused, misused, but >> never >> > > > really >> > > > > > > > understood. I see it as a violation of any of those >> controlling >> > > > > > > > factors which we commonly refer to as 'laws'. Some of those >> we >> > > > adapt >> > > > > > > > to early; like those of gravity, force, the elements, etc., >> because >> > > > > > > > the results of the violations are immediate. Still, on a >> higher >> > > > level >> > > > > > > > the results are more subtle, and takes more time for the >> cosmos to >> > > > > > > > render the prefect vibrations. Wherefore, we continue until >> we get >> > > > the >> > > > > > > > over-load, a lot of the times. Thus, the bible verse, >> 'Because the >> > > > > > > > judgement of the Lord is not executed speedily, the heart of >> man is >> > > > > > > > fully set upon doing evil ( contrary to the mystic laws)." >> So what >> > > > we >> > > > > > > > would finish with would be relationship and not religion. A >> > > > hamonious >> > > > > > > > relationship with the Laws natural to the earth/heaven >> factors. >> > > > Then >> > > > > > > > the nations could use the soldiers on the farms, the polices >> > > > building >> > > > > > > > structures, the politians, well,they still might need >> something >> > > > that >> > > > > > > > they don't have to think about. We can defy some of these >> laws to a >> > > > > > > > certain extent, but we can't defeat any of them. Seeming to >> ignore >> > > > > > > > them is not a form of defeat. If one ever learn to live in >> that >> > > > > > > > hormony he don't want any of those laws defeated no way. The >> > > > solution, >> > > > > > > > then becomes, too easy. With the magnitude of some of the >> problems >> > > > in >> > > > > > > > this world, seems like nothing short of a major catastrophy >> on a >> > > > > > > > global scale could even come close to having some effect. >> May be >> > > > true, >> > > > > > > > but, that catastrophy need be applied only to the old >> systems of >> > > > > > > > thoughts, produceing behavior. >> > >> > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 6:23 pm, ornamentalmind < >> [email protected]> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > Gabbers, while I may have discussed about yes/no issues, >> the >> > > > notion >> > > > > > of >> > > > > > > > > sin is not one of them. I do not accept the notion of sin. >> > >> > > > > > > > > On Nov 17, 4:06 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Yes, you do, orn. You argue along the same yes/no line. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:46 PM, ornamentalmind < >> > > > > > > > [email protected] >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > Accepting the notion of sin/salvation seems to be >> necessary >> > > > for >> > > > > > > > > > > current day biblical dogma to make sense. Am I missing >> > > > something >> > > > > > > > > > > there? Oh, and I don't accept said notion. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 11:54 pm, iam deheretic < >> [email protected]> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > every generation has its teachers and false >> teachers, >> > > > prophets >> > > > > > and >> > > > > > > > false >> > > > > > > > > > > > prophets. >> > > > > > > > > > > > personally I am not into bible thumpers. >> > > > > > > > > > > > Allan >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:24 PM, pathfinder < >> > > > > > > > [email protected] >> > > > > > > > > > > >wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like in the days of Noah, shall the days be >> when the >> > > > Son >> > > > > > of >> > > > > > > > Man >> > > > > > > > > > > > > is revealed. Noah's message was strange and >> > > > inconceivable. >> > > > > > Jesus >> > > > > > > > spoke >> > > > > > > > > > > > > of this in Luke 17:26> "And as it was in the days >> of >> > > > No'e, so >> > > > > > > > shall it >> > > > > > > > > > > > > be also in the days of the Son of man." The >> warning is >> > > > also >> > > > > > in >> > > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > numbers: 8 souls saved. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Isaiah 29:10> "For the Lord hath poured out upon >> you the >> > > > > > spirit >> > > > > > > > of >> > > > > > > > > > > > > deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the >> prophets and >> > > > your >> > > > > > > > rulers, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > the seers hath he covered. > (11)- And the visioin >> of all >> > > > has >> > > > > > is >> > > > > > > > > > > > > become unto you as the words of a book that is >> sealed, >> > > > which >> > > > > > men >> > >> > ... >> > >> > read more ยป- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > - Show quoted text - >> > > > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > Be Paranoid. > God is always building a better idiot!!! >
