DW of course there are similarities.. religious belief influence religious beliefs both Judaism and Jesus had a great deal of influence on Islam.
When people find it more interesting to study prophecy it is much easier than studying how to live life on a day to day basis after all it is easier to distort and shape into what you want it to say. Fortunately prophecy has little to do with day to day living and a whole lot to do with pointing fingers. To me threats and pointing fingers has little or nothing to do with spirituality. I also think that the excessive use ff prophecy is what drives more people from the real good and value in beliefs. The great Chinese Philosopher Confucius one said "To be in the presents of one's God is to be in heaven." Allan On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 4:47 PM, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]>wrote: > That is what is so interesting for me, Allan, that it's > interpretations are are so similar and what can be read can be so very > different. When I look at the interpretation that Edward provides it > is vastly different from what I read from it and what interpretations > I have heard. Of course, the bit that Pat provides I have heard before > and in comparing the speech patterns and writing styles there can be > some sense of order and relationship between religions. The two > religions (Judaism and Islam) being so closely related, this should > not come as a surprise! The common ground it provides is, > unfortunately, often viewed as religious difference rather than a > foundation for building good relations. Taking the book of Isaiah as > the perfect example, that is. > > On Nov 28, 7:06 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > Edward that goes to prove people will read what they want to in what they > > read. I reread Isaiah just to recall it.. It has not changed since i > first > > read it,, just a book of prophcy with very little value to me spiritually > > which leaves me in a difficult problem. I see no value to it in living a > > daily spiritual life. Day to day living is what a (spiritual) life is all > > about. > > Now on the other hand prophecy is great for those who want to appear to > be > > spiritually wise as they can take bits and pieces and twist it to mold > say > > anything they want to say and read into it anything they want to read. > > > > With no poisonous snakes on Malta we know that Saul of Tarsus was never > > bitten by a poison snake therefore he could never have been miraculously > > healed, making the story a lie.. because it is a lie it leaves all other > > stories told about him suspect. > > As for Saul laying the foundation another would build on that is true,, > but > > that does not make the foundation one of truth ,, remember the > foundation > > he laid is built on a lie simple as it may be.. leaving the whole > structure > > suspect. > > > > Son's of God is a whole different question,, but all men and women even > the > > bad ones are son's of YHVH including the ones that are considered evil or > > bad depending how you view it. I have my own point of view on that > subject > > too. > > Allan > > > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 9:51 AM, pathfinder <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > So then the vision of the barbarian was true, Saul was of the same > > > nature as the snake; ( Prophecy: Just has Moses raised the serpent in > > > the wilderness, so shall the son of man be raised in the last days. > > > But the healing was for those who had been bitten by sepents). Perhaps > > > the miracle asspect was God making him the blind servant. Remember > > > Paul said that he laid the foundation, and another would build > > > thereon. Paul laid the foundation that Jesus was a savior for the > > > world, while Jesus said that he came to bring the sword. Paul said > > > that he was blinded along his path, and received his sight after he > > > agreed to do what Jesus had told him to do in that meeeting. Now > > > history shows that the foundation that Paul laid was the one that > > > Jesus said would be the Son's ( For as many that do the will of YHVH > > > are the Son's of YHVH ), whose inheritance was taken after they had > > > killed him. And ofcourse, Isaiah talked about the blind servant, > > > tampering with the laws of God. > > > I am working on the > > > writing. > > > Edward > > > On Nov 23, 11:49 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Edward Saul's the validity of Saul of Taurus teachings are predicated > by > > > the > > > > miracle healing of Saul by God, making him a teacher chosen by God, > the > > > > problem the lies simply in the fact there are no poisonous snakes on > > > Malta > > > > which really creates a problem with the validity of Saul's teachings > > > > especially when you have lie in the very foundation > > > > Have fun figuring that one out.. how do you erase the deciet? > > > > Allan > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:58 PM, pathfinder < > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > What lead you to think that I can type? > > > > > Lazzy? > > > > > Paul (Saul; Centurian)>...Imagine living in an environment where > > > > > certain citizens are respected as gods, in a very real sense. > However, > > > > > The setting is the Age of the Sun god, Ra., Egyptian. ( Solar > Cult)... > > > > > The barbarrians had not evolved from the cult before it, but they > had > > > > > the basic principles. The principles had not changed, only the way > > > > > they were applied. This means that there were people that could > see. > > > > > Wherefore, the story tells the way the vision was revealed and what > > > > > was revealed about Paul. The serpent had varied interpretations > from > > > > > both mythologies: from representing wisdom, to the initator, the > > > > > dragon, death, so on. If one make a biological examination, then > take > > > > > the results to the bigger picture of the prophecies, they will get > > > > > faster results in that understanding, I think. I love the Hebrew > > > > > language; the letters of the alphabet make statements before you > can > > > > > even put them together to make a word! I see that the seer was > looking > > > > > at Paul being the venom that would spread over the nations. The > seer > > > > > saw it, but it's not clear whether he understood it The remark > about > > > > > Paul being god could be related to the fact that he was > centurian.... > > > > > Wish I knew the language! > > > > > On Nov 23, 11:18 am, pathfinder <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I'm looking at it. > > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 11:35 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You are funny Edward, I wonder if you know what is in your own > > > heart > > > > > much > > > > > > > less what is in th heart of others. As for standards there > are > > > many > > > > > > > standards, each person is their own judge. from your writings > you > > > claim > > > > > to > > > > > > > have the standards of christian dogma and doctrine which you > want > > > to > > > > > shove > > > > > > > off on everyone else. > > > > > > > Edward Edward Edward if you are dealing with anyone you need to > > > have > > > > > your > > > > > > > reservations tailored by caution and accuracy. You will find we > > > tend > > > > > not to > > > > > > > attack people around here but rather ideas and concepts: and > all > > > ideas > > > > > and > > > > > > > concepts are free game if you are hung up on one be warned > your > > > > > feelings > > > > > > > will be hurt simple because you take things to personally. > > > > > > > > > assessment? that one is easy read your very first document that > you > > > > > > > presented to this group. > > > > > > > Testimony of Jesus Christ[2]--word document.doc > > > > > > > I am to lazy to retype it. this is very typical of > funnymentalist > > > > > thinking. > > > > > > > or what every you want to call them, this is according to you > your > > > > > great > > > > > > > document of enlightenment. and according to them they are all > on > > > the > > > > > narrow > > > > > > > path and very few are on the path.. You do not know how many > times > > > I > > > > > have > > > > > > > been told that. What you see as narrow I see as broad and wide > with > > > > > many > > > > > > > people on the path. Now as for the actual path you are on I > really > > > > > don't > > > > > > > know and which is more I am really do not know,, and I do not > know > > > you > > > > > well > > > > > > > enough to make a judgment.. > > > > > > > > > When are you going to give your response to the poisonous snake > > > biting > > > > > Saul > > > > > > > of Taurus on Malta? > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:48 AM, pathfinder < > > > [email protected] > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The sellection of the children as an example was for what > would > > > seem, > > > > > > > > obvious reason. By age 1 the nature seem fully functional and > > > seem to > > > > > > > > gain it's greatest outside influence around age 3. It had > nothing > > > to > > > > > > > > do with anyone's physical abilities or > > > > > > > > disabilities. > > > > > > > > > One thing that consistantly prevails in most of your > messages > > > to > > > > > > > > me , is that you come with two different standards; i.e., one > for > > > you > > > > > > > > and one for me. By those for you, you are allowed to give > your > > > > > opinion > > > > > > > > freely of me and my views. The one issued for me requires > that my > > > > > > > > opinion of you must be taylored by caution and > > > > > > > > accurracy > > > > > > > > >While I base my opinion of you on the contents that I see > > > emitted > > > > > > > > from the seat of your heart. In your statement "....your > > > generalities > > > > > > > > that you have arrived at from your teachings of > christianity", > > > show > > > > > me > > > > > > > > the ground for such an > > > > > > > > assessment. > > > > > > > > >What I prefer in socialization is that each individual > maintain > > > the > > > > > > > > self-governed standards acceptable to each. One standard > should > > > be > > > > > > > > that if I do it to you, you are justified in doing it to me. > > > >I > > > > > > > > see the road that I'm on to be narrow and few travelers > theron, > > > for > > > > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 12:16 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Edward one of the absolutes of the world is if you states > if > > > > > something is > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > absolute you will be absolutely wrong. Don't put me in the > > > > > catagory that > > > > > > > > > you see yourself in. One thing is you do not know me or who > I > > > am > > > > > until > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > do leave me out of your generalities that you have arrived > at > > > from > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > teachings of christianity. > > > > > > > > > > > As far as children go, I have been fixed and have no > intention > > > of > > > > > > > > bringing > > > > > > > > > children into this world, and for good reasons, unlike you > I > > > have > > > > > several > > > > > > > > > great grand children. Your ideas are not original but > concepts > > > that > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > been passed on for many generation. > > > > > > > > > > > You have a long way to grow in spirituality a long way that > is > > > not > > > > > easy. > > > > > > > > > According to your beliefs the road to predation is wide > and > > > many > > > > > chose > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > follow it, from what I have read of your writing I would > guess > > > you > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > somewhere on that wide road. > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:25 PM, pathfinder < > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I am saying that the heart of man aka your heart, my > heart, > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > hearts of all are set towards survival, gratification, > > > pleasure, > > > > > > > > > > curiousity, thrill, etc. We must learn to bring the heart > > > into > > > > > > > > > > conformity. Out of an instinct to survive, gratify, enjoy > or > > > > > whatever > > > > > > > > > > the caes may be, I, you, man, woman, we do what we think > is > > > best > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > ourselves if we do not apply the laws or their > principles. We > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > > learn to do what is wanting without violating those Laws. > > > > > > > > > > Collectively, we assume or believe that no one knows our > > > > > thoughts, > > > > ... > > > > read more ยป -- ( ) I_D Allan If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
