I've heard that expression. And, from my limited experience with long term
relationships I would tend to agree. Now if I could just find a gf with a
hot mom who wasn't a psychotic... ;)


On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 7:16 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's said- by some- if your want to know what your bride will be like
> in a few decades, get to know her mother but like many sayings, there
> are exceptions. Since the father is less obvious, it might take longer
> to apprise a groom.
>
> On May 14, 6:53 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Naw. She was just drunk and being an asshole. It was something that I got
> > used to after a while. She was an alcoholic and a nut case. The daughter
> > wasn't an alcoholic but otherwise took after her mom.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >  I could be wrong to assume there is more to this story, but were they
> > > perhaps getting some sun or otherwise exposed? It could've just been
> her
> > > trying to play off the situation, 'Ah my dear what a lovely bosom.
> Don't
> > > forget the condom!'
> >
> > > On 5/14/2011 5:12 PM, Chuck Bowling wrote:
> >
> > > Maybe. But she was staring blatantly at my crotch when she said it.
> >
> > > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >>  Let's hope she was referring to your personality. Maybe all the
> previous
> > >> boys were too afraid to meet her?
> >
> > >> On 5/14/2011 10:33 AM, Chuck Bowling wrote:
> >
> > >> Heh. My ex's mom was probably one of the strangest creatures I've ever
> > >> met. Her first words to me when we met was "I like your balls". Of
> course
> > >> she was drunk - I think. I'd never actually seen her sober so maybe it
> was
> > >> her normal state.
> >
> > >> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:22 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >>> Well...there might be agreement  about where a daughter/son-in-law
> > >>> should be placed from the mom's point of view...or jail! But I'm not
> > >>> one of them.
> >
> > >>> Cities also saw the rise of division of labor rather than tribes
> > >>> traipsing about after herds, i.e. the start of commerce.
> >
> > >>> On May 12, 5:33 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > Anybody who would relocate to be near his mother-in-law is probably
> > >>> better
> > >>> > off in an asylum somewhere...
> >
> > >>>  > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:51 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >>> > > They were nomads- yes- following herds and fertile vegetation but
> I
> > >>> > > think they realized the "safety in numbers' as well as organized
> > >>> > > protection that a city would afford. In a sense, man is still
> nomadic
> > >>> > > and will move for a better paying job, climate, to be near his
> > >>> mother-
> > >>> > > in-law, etc. :-)
> >
> > >>> > > On May 12, 12:01 pm, Chuck Bowling <
> [email protected]>
> > >>> > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > I think the theory is that humans were once hunter/gatherers
> going
> > >>> where
> > >>> > > the
> > >>> > > > food was. Once we discovered agriculture we began to settle
> into
> > >>> villages
> > >>> > > > that in turn grew.
> >
> > >>> > > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:03 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > > > > Sometimes- it depends on the species (protection of the
> young).
> > >>> There
> > >>> > > > > is an urge to compete most likely based on survival that
> tries to
> > >>> > > > > insure food, territory, protection from predators that varies
> and
> > >>> is
> > >>> > > > > most subtle in humans via language arts, etc. but the game's
> the
> > >>> same.
> > >>> > > > > Humans may have watched herds and decided to establish cities
> is
> > >>> > > > > another thought. And yes, there are great benefits in
> cooperation
> > >>> and
> > >>> > > > > compromise but then we would have to get into a whole new
> arena.
> >
> > >>> > > > > On May 11, 8:01 pm, Chuck Bowling <
> > >>> [email protected]>
> > >>> > > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > That's true too. But, it seems that there is more
> cooperation
> > >>> within
> > >>> > > a
> > >>> > > > > > species than across species. I wonder why that is?
> >
> > >>> > > > > > It seems to me like there is as much benefit in cooperation
> > >>> between
> > >>> > > > > species
> > >>> > > > > > as there is within a species.
> >
> > >>> > > > > > I guess the answer would likely have something to do with
> > >>> protecting
> > >>> > > > > > offspring.
> >
> > >>> > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, rigsy03 <
> [email protected]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > The same animals do not work together either. Check out
> the
> > >>> mating
> > >>> > > of
> > >>> > > > > > > AK bears. Or the everlasting frustrations of male and
> female,
> > >>> male
> > >>> > > and
> > >>> > > > > > > male, female and female, child to child human beings!!!
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > On May 11, 9:31 am, Chuck Bowling <
> > >>> [email protected]
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > > Maybe the problem is a differing opinion on what 'work
> > >>> together'
> > >>> > > > > actually
> > >>> > > > > > > > means. What I mean when I say that animals don't work
> > >>> together is
> > >>> > > > > that
> > >>> > > > > > > there
> > >>> > > > > > > > is no contract or agreement between them for the mutual
> > >>> benefit
> > >>> > > of
> > >>> > > > > both.
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > Note also that I didn't say no animals cooperate. Only
> that
> > >>> most
> > >>> > > > > don't.
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > For instance;
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > The shark doesn't give the sucker permission to ride
> along.
> > >>> It
> > >>> > > just
> > >>> > > > > does
> > >>> > > > > > > > because that is where the feeding grounds are.
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > The hippo example is a symbiotic relationship because
> the
> > >>> hippo
> > >>> > > > > actually
> > >>> > > > > > > > gives the bird permission to go into it's mouth to
> clean.
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > Diatoms don't give the whale permission to eat them.
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > Grazing deer could care less if the monkey is
> forewarned.
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > I'm not sure it's relevant to the conversation but
> there is
> > >>> a
> > >>> > > > > difference
> > >>> > > > > > > > between symbiotes and parasites.
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:19 AM, the taoist shaman <
> > >>> > > > > [email protected]
> > >>> > > > > > > >wrote:
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > thats not even close to true chuck , sorry i have no
> real
> > >>> > > evidence
> > >>> > > > > but
> > >>> > > > > > > > > nether do you , although the answer is there to be
> > >>> researched .
> > >>> > > (
> > >>> > > > > not
> > >>> > > > > > > > > essentialy " symbiotic "  .... theres too much to be
> said
> > >>> ,
> > >>> > > suckers
> > >>> > > > > > > > > feeding off bacteria on sharks , birds eating bugs
> off
> > >>> > > hippopotamus
> > >>> > > > > ,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > diatoms feeding whales , some monkey and deer do work
> > >>> together
> > >>> > >  ,
> > >>> > > > > man
> > >>> > > > > > > > > and dog , even recorded proof of man and orca (
> shamoo )
> > >>> ,
> > >>> > > every
> > >>> > > > > > > > > scavenger and paracite , ... this is all a hopeless ,
> > >>> vague ,
> > >>> > > speck
> > >>> > > > > of
> > >>> > > > > > > > > what i mean to convay , oh well .
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > Chuck Bowling wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > Most species of animal don't actually cooperate in
> a
> > >>> > > symbiotic
> > >>> > > > > > > > > relationship.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > The monkey and deer don't work together. The monkey
> > >>> sees the
> > >>> > > deer
> > >>> > > > > run
> > >>> > > > > > > and
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > being at about the same point in the food chain
> figures
> > >>> that
> > >>> > > it
> > >>> > > > > > > should
> > >>> > > > > > > > > run
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > too.
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:18 PM, the taoist shaman <
> > >>> > > > > > > [email protected]
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >wrote:
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >  i view myself as a spiritual being haveing a
> human
> > >>> > > experience
> > >>> > > > > .
> > >>> > > > > > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > point is that we shouldn't behave like
> carnivorous
> > >>> beasts ,
> > >>> > > > > deer
> > >>> > > > > > > and
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > monkeys work tgether eating nuts and beries , the
> > >>> deer keep
> > >>> > > a
> > >>> > > > > look
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > out , monkeys pick nuts ,
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > is language a good or poor indicator of intellect
> ?
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Ash wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I think we are a part of the animal
> kingdom,
> > >>> last
> > >>> > > time
> > >>> > > > > I
> > >>> > > > > > > > > checked
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > we were mammals in the sapien family. But I
> think
> > >>> the
> > >>> > > > > mentality
> > >>> > > > > > > of
> > >>> > > > > > > > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > herd is a natural behavior to social creatures,
> > >>> that and
> > >>> > > our
> > >>> > > > > > > talented
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > rhetoric for negative reinforcement of
> behaviors
> > >>> that go
> > >>> > > > > against
> > >>> > > > > > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > norm while the norm is reinforced with
> confirmation
> > >>> bias.
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/5/2011 3:17 PM, the taoist shaman wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > your statments contradict each other ,
> besides we
> > >>> are
> > >>> > > not
> > >>> > > > > > > animals ,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > well....... i can be a bit of an animal from
> time
> > >>> to
> > >>> > > time
> > >>> > > > > but
> > >>> > > > > > > .....
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 10:02 pm, rigsy03<
> [email protected]>
> > >>>  wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> How can you expect governance unless you can
> > >>> control
> > >>> > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > population?
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> What else is new? :-)
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Even a family needs order and control,
> doesn't
> > >>> it?
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Don't you observe the order of nature? The
> > >>> routines of
> > >>> > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > natural
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> world serve a definite purpose. Eat or be
> eaten.
> > >>> :-)
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> On May 3, 12:50 pm, the taoist shaman<
> > >>> > > [email protected]>
> > >>> > > > > > >  wrote:
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> are most people really sheepole ? can i get
> a
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